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    How am I condemned?

    you have you rebellious nature , just as Adam has but not from Adam.
  2. L

    How am I condemned?

    I agree, so why are you blaming Adam for our tendacies? The physical was cursed through Adam . The spiritual was already condemned or I can blame Adam Are you condemned without knowledge of the law?
  3. L

    How am I condemned?

    We were through what? We were with God for ages (there is no time in Heaven) . He created us individually and we had an intimate relationship with Him. We were expelled because of sin, then after ages, a body for possible pardon
  4. L

    How am I condemned?

    all who believe in inherited sin can do just that. "It is not my fault, Adam sinned first" " The devil made me do it"... both are false
  5. L

    How am I condemned?

    no, the predestination arguement is mute if we were actuallly with him before being human.. Foreknow is a previous relationship not foreknowledge. of events. He predestined us to be conformed to the image of His son is not salvation or growth but simply having a body like Jesus, them we are...
  6. L

    How am I condemned?

    The biggest falacy of inherited sin, is to let us blames Adam anf therefore God for OUR sin. Why did God place me as a human in a sinful state?(My ancestors) I have not heard of Jesus and going straight to hell.Did God make me in order to save me? This is the result of current Baptidst Teaching
  7. L

    How am I condemned?

    You are the bad guy in this narrative ,, you sinned and were condemned ,spiritually dead. Instead of being destroyed , God created this place for us in darkness. You were sent here. In God's time and pleasure He provided mankind, a body for us. He chose a people and time and place to come and...
  8. L

    How am I condemned?

    I know, but I believe this is totally scriputural, but that leaves you with questions that attack God's charactor. so you have to believe God made man just to send some to hell you have to believe God is a respector of persons... having favorites. etc. What about those who have not heard of...
  9. L

    How am I condemned?

    Was breaking the Mosaic law not sin? "If thou be wise, thou shalt be wise for thyself: but if thou scornest, thou alone shalt bear it."—Proverbs 9:12 "The fathers shall not be put to death for the children, neither shall the children be put to death for the fathers: Every man shall be put to...
  10. L

    How am I condemned?

    no the verse is saying Heaven is RE-Conciled by the cross What in Heaven needed RECONCILIATION by the cross?
  11. L

    How am I condemned?

    I agree that it is but what from Heaven needs the cross? explain what you see
  12. L

    How am I condemned?

    yes, By one death all could be saved because we share in the flesh and blood with Jesus. We as individually unique creations that had no brotherhood , no kinship could not be saved by one death. unless given bodies and kindred relationship
  13. L

    How am I condemned?

    I believe like you , just ol' Baptist, raised at feet of Gamaliel type. more independent but SBC influence as well. I hold your college in high regard, so I guess, I am now an Baptist+ This pre existance is obvious to me, To consider this , provide answers many questions that we have...
  14. L

    How am I condemned?

    in addition; What things in heaven can be reconciled by the cross? Col 1:20 And, having made peace through the blood of his cross, by him to reconcile all things unto himself; by him, I say, whether they be things in earth, or things in heaven.
  15. L

    How am I condemned?

    no sin is not inherited Eze 18:20 The soul that sinneth, it shall die. The son shall not bear the iniquity of the father, neither shall the father bear the iniquity of the son: the righteousness of the righteous shall be upon him, and the wickedness of the wicked shall be upon him. We sin...
  16. L

    How am I condemned?

    Rulers is incorrect, Why did they continue to try and kill him, if they WERE rulers? How could Jesus misunderstand the accusation?
  17. L

    How am I condemned?

    Psa 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High. Psa 82:7 But ye shall die like men, and fall like one of the princes. This is the same verse told to Jews who would have stoned Jesus. Jesus said Ye are elohim, (not GOD ) but supernatural beings, This group was...
  18. L

    How am I condemned?

    Why did Jesus say you must be born of water (flesh) if it is obvious? Jhn 3:5¶ Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. Jhn 3:6 That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born...
  19. L

    How am I condemned?

    I need to add to my reponce to adedman, the physical body does not sin but the soul sins , the control you mention is of the sinful being . If i was to hit you accidently, did I sin? If I was to swing AT you and miss, did I sin? Sin is spiritual,
  20. L

    How am I condemned?

    Sin came into the physical world through Adam. It was already here as sinful spiritual beings were here first.
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