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    free will vs. election???????

    Being elementary is a great place to start. 2 Cor 11:3. "But I fear, lest by any means, as the serpent beguiled Eve through his subtilty, so your minds should be corrupted from the simplicity that is in Christ." Ask yourself this: does having several different "creeds" that have to be...
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    is calvinism based upon John Calvin, Or Upon Jesus And the Gospel?

    First of all, we were talking specifically about John Calvin. You can not justify Calvin vicariously through John MacArthur. Secondly, if Mac thought Calvin's amillenialism was a valid position, why is he a pre-tribber!
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    Calvinists Please Explain Something for Me...

    Iconoclast and the others who got caught One thing I'll have to retract about the last statement. I will retract calling you deceitful because I can not absolutely PROVE that you knew what I posted was Calvinist doctrine. Which means in order for me to retract that, you have to admit that you...
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    Calvinists Please Explain Something for Me...

    Paul did the same thing to catch other believers. 2 Cor 12:16. Nathan did the same thing to catch King David. 2 Sam 12:1-15. Police officers use this tactic on a regular basis in interrogations. Only self-righteous Pharisees use it to condemn someone because they got busted in claiming tenets of...
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    Calvinists Please Explain Something for Me...

    Really? How many admit that Calvin's "theology" is a rip-off from Augustine! Calvin was the biggest plagiarist in history.:tonofbricks:
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    is calvinism based upon John Calvin, Or Upon Jesus And the Gospel?

    The apostle Paul taught of a future rapture and tribulation, so he couldn't have been a Calvinist. Plus Paul never murdered nor caused to be murdered anyone after his conversion. Paul taught the WHOLE counsel of God, John Calvin skipped Revelation.
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    Calvinists Please Explain Something for Me...

    And what kind of tree was John Calvin:thumbsup:
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    The Church Universal

    Most of you are arguing the the different sides of the same coin. The church proper is universal to the extent that universal is defined as the collective body of believers. The church operational is through the local church. The church can be viewed as a franchise with branches located all...
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    is calvinism based upon John Calvin, Or Upon Jesus And the Gospel?

    Nah, I heard the Suess got his degree from a diploma mill. I actually learned my English from reading the back of milk cartons from the "MISSING: Calvinist Brains" series.
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    Calvinists Please Explain Something for Me...

    Classic example of calvinist scripture twisting Here folks is a classic example of how Calvinist read things into the Bible, and deduce things that just are not there. First of all, Romans 8:8 does not say that God can not be pleased by a person who does a righteously moral act. Romans 8 (ch...
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    Calvinists Please Explain Something for Me...

    FREE WILL-Norman Geisler-2 Objections to Self-determinism. Free will rules out sovereignty. If human beings are free, are they outside God’s sovereignty? Either God determines all, or else he is not sovereign. And if he determines all, then there are no self-determined acts. It is sufficient...
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    Calvinists Please Explain Something for Me...

    FREE WILL-Norman Geisler-1 Concepts of the nature of human choice fall within three categories: determinism, indeterminism, and self-determinism. A determinist looks to actions caused by another, an indeterminist to uncaused actions, and a self-determinist to self-caused actions. Determinism...
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    is calvinism based upon John Calvin, Or Upon Jesus And the Gospel?

    The smiley face was supposed to show my inflection :) It's like going one on one with Michael Jordan and saying he's got no skills. It was pure satire lad although Calvin missed the basket when it came to Revelation and end time prophecy, and is only shooting about 30% from the floor on...
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    is calvinism based upon John Calvin, Or Upon Jesus And the Gospel?

    Calvinism has no eschatology :) John Calvin's bible went from Genesis to Jude.
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    Calvinists Please Explain Something for Me...

    "In whom ye also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation: in whom also after that ye believed, ye were sealed with that holy Spirit of promise" Eph 1:13 Calvinist Order: Spirit, hear the word, trust, believe The BIBLEs Order, hear the word, trusted...
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    John 14:2 and Italicized Additions in KJV

    http://www.trustingodamerica.com/NIV.htm
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    John 14:2 and Italicized Additions in KJV

    Since the argument was limited to comparing the KJV to the other translations, yes, the KJVs lead. We've all agreed that these renderings were in older mss that predate the KJV, Geneva and the Bishops Bible, but for sake of the argument, since it is the KJV that is being compared to the other...
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    Calvinists Please Explain Something for Me...

    I don't actually BELIEVE that proposition, that's just the problem they face if they are consistent with their theology. The Arminian will use this to prove one can lose their salvation. To the Calvinist, these passages annihilate the entire idea of God granted repentance to anyone to give them...
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    Calvinists Please Explain Something for Me...

    Ever wonder why Paul, the apostle to the Gentiles, wrote a letter specifically to HEBREWS when they are under blindness during the church age? Rom 11:25 Hebrews has all the tremendous truths about the OT sacrifices and the how Christ fulfilled all the types, but Hebrews is for TRIBULATION...
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