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now you speak nonsense!

Since Jesus died for Judas, how does this fit with the "reformed" doctrine of "election", and more specifically, the Atonement? Can you please answer this?

I know Matthew Henry was a Calvinist. My point is, that even as a Calvinist, he was honest enough to admit that Judas did part take of the Lord's Supper, when Jesus said to ALL present, "this is My blood, shed for YOU". Which is very clear, that Jesus here says that He DIED FOR JUDAS! Or, was...

As I said, CHRISTIANS, but this has nothing to do with prior to their salvation!

I said TO the "unelect" that is the people of Nineveh!

Indeed, interesting that these people whom God saved, were neither Jewish or the "elect"! Yet, God is very merciful. Something for our "reformed" and "Calvinistic" friends to learn from! :Biggrin

Their judgement was 100 years later. surely you don't think that the same people whom God saved through Jonah, were still living then?

I notice that you typically ignored the account of Jonah to the UNELECTED!

Read as the Bible says, and NOT as a Calvinist! "He chose us in Him before the foundation of the world", for what purpose? Salvation? NO! It clearly says, "that we (as Christians) should be holy and blameless before Him! That is it. No need to write into what the Bible says! . Even verse 5, see...

Typical misuse of the Bible by Calvinists. Tell me something. was Judas who betrayed Jesus, part of the "elect"? Yet, if you were to read the account of the Lord's Supper in Luke's Gospel, you will very clearly see, that Judas was present at the time Jesus instituted the Lord's Supper, when He...

The often misunderstood and misquoted verse from Ephesians 1:5! It has NOTHING to do with anyone being saved, but, as the verse very plainly says, that each "believer" has been "marked out before hand" to be "adopted", through their faith in the Lord Jesus Christ. "adoption" can hardly take...

both which have been perverted by the "Calvinists"!

I do not believe there is a single verse in the Bible, that teaches God "elects" anyone to salvation, as the "reformed" or "Calvinists", want us to believe! Salvation is available for the entire human race (John 3:16, etc), and not for any "elite"! If Jesus Christ died for "everyone without...

Are you referring to the word "God"? In the Old Testament, "Elohim" is in the masculine, plural, which I believe is because the "God" of the Bible is not a single Person, which can be seen from texts like, "let US make man in OUR image" (Genesis 1:26), and Eccles, 12:1, "remember your Creators"...

Well, the Old Testament Saints were not aware of the Three Persons in the θειότης. IT was only expounded in New Testament times by the Holy Spirit. My point being, that "θειότης" (used once in Romans 1:20), which speaking of the "divine nature", does not tell us about the "Persons" within this...

People get involved with things they know nothing about, instead of first asking! I thought we Christians were meant to be better...

you fail to conprehend the fact, that God's ORININAL "elect" were NOT the "Gentiles", that is why it says, "to the Jew first...2"!!! "He came to His own", (John 1:12) JEWS!

My Name is Andrew Ansell, from England, UK, and STUDIES ON THE HOLY TRINITY is MY website! Please get your facts right before making a fool of yourself! :(

that you are not! :Biggrin

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