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Helen, Show me a place in scripture where someone "chooses" salvation in Christ without the influence of the Holy Spirit FIRST working in them. I can show plenty of places where the Bible says we are slaves to sin and are unable (that's right, "able") to do anything that pleases the Lord...

webdog said: "You can try to intellectualize the meaning to fit your doctrine...but the fact remains it means simply to "know beforehand"." This is simply not true. As the gentlemen clearly showed from examples from scripture, foreknowledge does not simply mean "to know beforehand." After...

Thanks for all the verses pastor. All of them have been refuted on this forum time and time again. What I wanted to know was not answered. How can a calvinist say praise God about their loved ones going to hell? I mean that as an honest question. Think about your kids, wife or loved one that...

Robert, No, 1 Timothy 2:4 does not do away with Calvinism. I have already posted a reponse to the idea that God can express His desires but His decrees don't always match. And, Dave Hunt's book is simply inaccurate and bad, frankly. I have read his "Debating Calvinism" book and was shocked...

webdog, First of all, I appreciate this discussion and I hope and pray we can stay kind and respectful toward one another. You have certainly been kind in your answers and I hope you find my attitude to be proper as well. Having said that, I must say that I disagree with you firmly because...

matthewhenry: Let's look at your verses and see if your conclusion is acceptable: One at a time: a. The Bible says that God wants all men to be saved (1 Tim. 2:3-5; 2 Pet. 3:9). Yes, the Bible says God wants all to be saved. In fact, I'll add Ezekial 18:23 and 32. However, God's desire is...

Here is Nelson's definition - I think it's right and there are scriptures to confirm it: FOREKNOWLEDGE - the unique knowledge of God that enables Him to know all events, including the free acts of people, before they happen. God’s foreknowledge is much more than foresight. God does not know...

Linda, What does "foreknowledge" mean, in context?

webdog, Only the elect will believe and accept this gift. And, all those who do believe and repent will be saved, without exception.

The theologian with your name would have disagreed with your ultimate point because he was a Calvinist! ;)

That is it...corporate election. There is no thing as individual election not "in Christ" or unconditionally. There is a condition...believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you WILL be saved. [/b]</font> Webdog, You say there is a condition, to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you WILL be...

That is it...corporate election. There is no thing as individual election not "in Christ" or unconditionally. There is a condition...believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and you WILL be saved. [/b]</font> webdog... The Bible disagrees with you: “Unless the Lord had shortened those days, no life...

Hello wwr82, I wanted to encourage you in this pursuit. Here are a few thoughts on election: 1. The Bible speaks clearly on this doctrine. This is important. Some people want to think the doctrine of election is mysterious and therefore it is impossible to be dogmatic. I disagree. There...

How exactly does one "see Jesus" in someone's eye? That is a tad over the top.

Patrick: Of course! That is true. However, Warren doesn't say that. That is my point. He dodges the gospel when on Larry King.

Is larry King the proper forum? He preaches the Gospel. He is very solid in his preaching and doctrine. [/b]</font> Let me clarify what I was trying to say: I have seen Larry King ask Warren several times on several occassions if Jews, Atheists, etc., can go to heaven (or if they have a...

I've seen Warren on Larry King several times and have YET to hear him present the gospel. He dodges it every time. That is a huge problem.

I provided exact quotes from Warren and you can view the video yourself at this link: http://www.purposedriven.com/en-US/40DayCampaigns/40DaysOfPurpose/40DOPHOME.htm Just scroll to the bottom to see the video. In context, it is very clear that I presented his views, based on his quotes. I...

Hal, I agree that his doctrinal statement is good. The problem is: does he consistently teach and speak from the perspective of his doctrinal statement? Rick Warren has been on Larry King, Oprah, etc., many times and I have yet to hear him declare that Jesus alone is the way to the Father...

I wrote an article on Warren's errors with regard to church growth here: http://www.monergism.com/thethreshold/articles/questions/RickWarren_growth.html I was careful to show the exact scriptures he used as well as the misapplication of each text. I believe Warren's motives are probably good...