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    confused about Calvin

    Yeah, the "Calvinism" moniker is unfortunate since I've yet to meet a "Calvinist" who thinks John Calvin was some sort of infallable superhero. The man does deserve credit for some of the clearest and biblical teaching the church has ever been privileged to receive. I agree with Calvin's...
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    confused about Calvin

    Well then I guess, Jonathan Edwards, Charles Spurgeon, William Carrey, Adoniram Judson, George Whitfield, the Apostle Paul, and many others were so surprised to find them selves damned to hell since they believed in a "damable doctrine. I am so glad that you elightened me to their pride and...
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    confused about Calvin

    Jesus said beliefd (decision for Christ) IS a work, graciously enabled by the Holy Spirit to the elect: "Jesus answered them, “This is the work of God, that you believe in him whom he has sent.”" (John 6:29, ESV)
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    confused about Calvin

    Why would Jesus say "whosoever will" if He really meant "whosoever can"? That's plain silly!!! For whosoever shall call upon the name of the Lord shall be saved. (Romans 10:13) [/b]</font> Linda, I'm glad you quoted romans 10:13 because Paul is quoting from Joel at this point in his...
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    confused about Calvin

    Linda, "whosoever will" says NOTHING of who CAN believe, it only says that all who "will" believe will be saved. God never, ever turns His back on anyone who repents and turns to Christ. Whosoever will do that, will be saved. But, not all can, as John 6 and John 8 clearly say.
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    A case for Free Will through self-imposed limitations of the Sovereignty of God

    Your comparison of our justice system to God Almighty and the secret counsel of His will is not convincing. Who are you to say God is unjust in His electing some to eternal life? Note carefully what the Holy Spirit said through Paul: "But who are you, o man, to answer back to God?" --Romans 9:20a
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    confused about Calvin

    Hello Psalm40.17: Romans 8:28-30 prove that only certain ones are elect: "And we know that for those who love God all things work together for good, for those who are called according to his purpose. For those whom he foreknew he also predestined to be conformed to the image of his Son, in...
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    A case for Free Will through self-imposed limitations of the Sovereignty of God

    me4him, Sigh... We've gone over 2 Pet. 3:9 before, ad naseum. We also have discussed 1 Ti. 2:4. John 1:7 must be interpreted in light of seemingly contradictory passages such as John 8:47 and John 6:44. Not everyone CAN believe because Jesus very, very clearly said so! So, we need to...
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    A case for Free Will through self-imposed limitations of the Sovereignty of God

    me4him, Let's compare scripture with scripture: Where does the faith and gift of repentance come from? Does it come from the sinful nature of fallen man? Here are some scriptures that show it all comes from God: "God exalted him at his right hand as Leader and Savior, to give repentance to...
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    God hardened their hearts

    Tom, You nailed it with this post! That is exactly right.
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    A case for Free Will through self-imposed limitations of the Sovereignty of God

    I have to ask this of all those who are celebrated and magnifying man's "free will": WHAT ABOUT GOD'S FREE WILL??? Why are we not willing to recongnize that if man truly has the freedom to thwart the will of God (which the anti-Calvinist says is that every person who has ever lived be saved)...
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    Election and Free Will, now ........

    Helen, I read your article on your husband's home page - I found it very interesting and helpful in understanding your perspective. I have a simple question first: Please define what you mean by "free will". What is the will? What is free? Some define it as moral freedom to choose; others...
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    Election and Free Will, now ........

    Helen, I don't think anyone is saying God's grace is never resisted because we can all give examples of places where it is. The issue is - can God's elect resist ultimately to the point of missing salvation? Or, word it some other way, but you see what I mean.
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    A case for Free Will through self-imposed limitations of the Sovereignty of God

    Linda, One sentance statements hardly provide a convincing argument. Yes, Israel was elected, accepted and then rejected for a time, but Paul's argument is so much more than that. Not all are Israel who are of Israel, for example, and the individual salvation of both Jews and Gentiles is due...
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    A case for Free Will through self-imposed limitations of the Sovereignty of God

    Me4Him, This is not an easy question. Wherever you fit on the spectrum of God's sovereignty, you must admit that the Lord has secrets that He is not obligated to share with His creation. For example, I don't know why He put a choice in front of Adam and Eve. I don't know why Lucifer was...
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    A case for Free Will through self-imposed limitations of the Sovereignty of God

    Tim, Thank you. Inasmuch as I agree with you that the majority of Western Evangelicals would reject what we call Calvinism today, I just wish more people would realize that the reverse was the case a few generations ago. To not believe in God's freedom to save by election and predestination...
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    Election and Free Will, now ........

    Good question. I think election and predestination mark a soul for ultimate salvation but that doesn't indicate exactly when that regeneration will happen. Election is not salvation, if you will. I am elect because I am saved today, but I wasn't saved before 1982, even though I was still...
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    A case for Free Will through self-imposed limitations of the Sovereignty of God

    Linda, I'm sorry, but that can't be true. Consider: Romans 8:28-end of chapter refers to individual salvation. Romans 9:4 shows Paul most definitely focusing on the election of Israel as God's chosen people. However, he quickly moves to individuals when he discusses Jacob, Esau and Pharaoh...
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    How is salvation accomplished?

    Jesus was not telling Nicodemus to make himself born again, or that he has to be born again first. He was telling Nicodemus of the necessary spiritual standing of Nicodemus in order to understand what He (Jesus) was saying. Only those who have been born again (regenerated, quickened) thru the...
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