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Helen, That is funny, but his case on Jacob and Esau is airtight. I'm not sure how anyone could disagree with this particular issue.

standingfirminChrist, I notice a "holier-than-thou" attitude in people who think they were good enough, or smart enough, or persuaded enough, to "choose" salvation when the Bible says they are DEAD unless and until the Holy Spirit regenerates them. Sinners are dirty, rotten and they hate God...

I suggest a solid study found here: http://www.mslick.com/romans9c.htm

Ed, The interview happened. The Billy Graham Association confirmed it with correspondence. If I had this in email I would forward it to you. Perhaps the date is inaccurate, but the incident did happen. I don't know anything about the Mormon choir.

Webdog, Here is the biblical doctrine: "What then? Are we Jews any better off? No, not at all. For we have already charged that all, both Jews and Greeks, are under sin, as it is written: “None is righteous, no, not one;" (Romans 3:9-10, ESV) "“There is no fear of God before their eyes.”"...

One of the more famous passages calvinism rips from context. This is like saying I will give money to whoever I give money to. [/b]</font> Webdog, I would be very interested in your thorough explanation of Romans 9. Especially in light of the context of chapter 8 and then 10 and 11.

It's mercy to rescue one of them and not the other?!? To add to your analogy, I tell both drivers the key is in the car to unlock themselves, and that is all they have to do to survive. I call only one of the drivers to tell them where the key is located, allowing the other to perish. Some...

Here is a good discussion about that famous quote: http://www.biblebb.com/files/tonyqa/tc00-105.htm

The quote is true and I once wrote the Billy Graham association about it. They sent a note back indicating that Mr. Graham wasn't "feeling well" or something like that. I think Billy is a disciple of Charles Finney, father of the modern "altar call" with its emotional appeal, etc. Read Ian...

standingfirminChrist: I would much prefer NOT to be known as a "Calvinist" but a Christian. However, the state of evangelicalism today is so removed from the reformers, who rescued the Gospel from Rome, that the term is helpful as a distinction. If I know someone is Calvinistic in their...

It is common sense that by default if God doesn't elect those to hell, He ultimately elects the rest to hell. There is no way of getting around that. If I saw two cars about to run off a cliff, and I had the ability to save both...but choose only to save one, I have selected the destiny of...

brother James, That is a great quote. Of course, most Arminian evangelicals today would disagree with the scripture you quoted - they believe THEY are the ones who chose God and then, because He sees the future, God decided to choose them. It's all backward, but that's ok becauase it strokes...

so, Me4Him, you are saying that God had no control over whether or not man fell? He was suprised by this?

Perhaps he needs to continue praying the prayer of Jabez so that he can remain motivated. Sorry, couldn't resist.

I think the context must cause us to conclude that the leaven in this parable is not evil at all. This is the Kingdom, after all, and it did grow and is still growing in influence.

StraightAndNarrow: I know I am one of the elect because I am saved and trust Christ alone for my salvation: "I write these things to you who believe in the name of the Son of God that you may know that you have eternal life." (1 John 5:13, ESV)

Scott, You are right on! I think these non-Calvinists actually think every stinking dirty sinner who hates God deserves to go to heaven. We forget that we are His enemies until and unless we are drawn to salvation. God is not unjust if He graciously gives to some what He is not obligated to...

Watchman, Yet another myth perpetuated. Challenge for you: Find a respectable Calvinist theologian or author who believes John 3:16 suggests that God only loves the elect. Let us know what you find.

Me4Him, I'd suggest you read something besides the KJV and do some study yourself. Are you suggesting that God was surprised that man sinned and that He needed to repent? What is your interpretation of Genesis 6?

webdog, Bluster doesn't get you far here.