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We should do two things when understanding time. See what the Scriptures state or imply, and then use our God-given faculty of reason to apply the most logical explanation. Psa 106:48 Blessed [be] the LORD God of Israel from everlasting to everlasting: and let all the people say, Amen...

I think this is an oversimplification Yeshua; alone and by itself, without modification of any sort, to say that God is "Sovereign" is not to say "God exhaustively and actively causes all things to the smallest of details". Theoretically, a God such as Deists believe in would be "Sovereign"...

Ares: It would seem to me that the opposite is true....No Atheist can believe in LFW. Materialism demands an explanation based upon prior causes to include all human thoughts....feelings....even desires. As C.S. Lewis puts in his book "Miracles" ...paraphrased: "for the materialist, the...

No, no one said it did Because there are no Scriptures to back that claim.....hence....no one here made it.

http://www.edstetzer.com/Molinism-%20How%20to%20be%20a%20consistent%20infralapsarian.pdf Convincing to me....debate this all you guys want, just felt it might be good to at least share this well written and intelligent observation by a respected S.B. Theologian.

Yah, outside of the two introductory paragraphs, I rather enjoyed his teaching....then again....I am partial towards Supra-lapsarians in that I consider them to be the logically consistent and unapologetic Calvinists. I am vaguely annoyed sometimes by infras, in that I think they are fighting a...

I do, in fact, despite your abuse of exclamation points, back them up with Scriptures, in a previous post here: :BangHead::BangHead::BangHead: You simply didn't care to read, you simply didn't care to consider, you simply didn't care to acknowledge....then again, I do know this, it is...

UHHHHH....YAA :confused:

OK Sure it was......:rolleyes:

I will be polite, as I feel that, if you bother to listen or consider these will be appropriate and also informative answers to last portion of your last post. I will not attempt (at this time) to answer the previous portions. I will answer from a Classical Arminian perspective your...

Well, at least we have honesty folks...perish the thought, that Calvinism teaches that "God Loves You!" God in fact loves...the elect....whether or not you are one of those is, well, for him to know...and you to find out on judgement day. I will say this aged.....your theology is consistent...

WOW!! really?? I guess I don't understand Calvinism as much as I thought then. Yes, he loves them, and it in fact grieves him that men choose damnation over eternal fellowship with a loving God. Are there no passages in Scripture which express how grieved God is at the damnation of the wicked...

Oh, WOW!! 1.) I am thrilled you are researching WLC, if you are not careful though, he might talk you out of OT, and I would lose my only OT buddy on this board!!:tongue3: 2.) I have not looked at the particular link you posted yet, but having a cursory knowledge of what he speaks of, are...

This pre-supposes he is correct. Why not ask Skandelon if he tires of correcting mis-understandings and mis-applications of Arminian Theology. You act as though you are speaking (in the third person) about uninformed retards who have never considered these topics before. I could pick apart...

Moreover, you would be wrong even sinful in your sentiments if you DID!! You would be questioning God's perfect will and, after all, who art thou oh WD to reply against God? If you were in any way possibly upset at the idea that they were not "elect" you would be in a position of thinking...

Although this is worded in a uniquely Cal way, I agree with this by Englesma...the direct answer to the OP question for me is probably a (sometimes) Englesma is a Supra too :eek: The only thing I disagree with would be the opening paragraphs: Where today do professing Christians think of...

Agreed, this is one of the reasons I cannot embrace Calvinism...when sharing the "gospel" as they see it....they seem to be forced to say things to them that they don't necessarily believe to be true. Or they simply cannot tell them the WHOLE truth. They only can honestly claim that God Might...

I have no problem with your above post....sure it's OK with me...you just seem to expect no rejoinders when you post, and as it is a debate forum, then simply expect dissent. But this is why I have said what I said....and no one misquotes you: GET IT? Selah

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