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For those who are interested in the facts of the case, the High Court judgement is here: Alder Hey NHS Trust -v- Evans

Don't waste your breath, Martin: people come here with their preconceived prejudices about the NHS and the facts won't dislodge those. That doesn't stop me being amazed by the amount of misinformation propagated here about such sad cases.

The Samaritans were deemed to be unbelievers by the Jews

Bye, then

Then there was no need for Him to preach to them.

Matt, you may find Rahner's concept of the 'anonymous Christian' helpful here: Anonymous Christian - Wikipedia

Like I said, it's the ICJ that would bring a prosecution. Neither the Jews, nor the Arabs, nor the Brits covered themselves in glory in Palestine

We're not talking about Obama but, rather, illegal use of chemical weapons; the International Criminal Court at the Hague would seem to be the appropriate venue, not the UN, if the Israeli State's own inquiry doesn't come to anything

What's the UN got to do with the subject matter of this thread?

Did you not read what I said: I'm not listening to Hamas. The Israelis themselves have admitted using the substance!

It doesn't come from Hamas: Israel: White Phosphorus Use Evidence of War Crimes Israel itself has also admitted to using white phosphorous. Your second paragraph is irrelevant - why would I want to do that? We were guilty of crimes against Jews and Arabs in Palestine, as well as them being...

So how would you apply their principles to the ISIS hostage described upthread?

Ha ha! In the same way that a 'home grown terrorist' is one who is overly fond of fertiliser...like McVeigh...

It's a difficult one: do you think Shadrach, Meshach and Abednego could have pleaded the 'conversion by duress defence' if they'd bottled it at the door of the furnace?

More Whataboutism: you still haven't addressed the issue of Israeli use of illegal chemical weapons.

It's not an either/ or: Jews and Arabs should be free to live where they want. I'm neither pro-Hamas or pro-Israel but i am for justice and equity. Given that Israel.has used white phosphorous against civilians, they should be held to the same standard as Syria on the issue. And I agree that we...

Vengeance is retaliatory, after the event; defence applies during the event. So I don't see how Dave's quoted Scripture is any use in a scenario where one needs to defend oneself or your loved ones

No, we look after sick people...or used to. You do know the difference between a sentence of imprisonment and a hospital order? One is for Naughty People and the other is for Mentally Very Sick People.

Similar story here to what Tom relates: Thatcher (who in so many ways was Reagan's parallel) introduced 'Care in the Community' for mental health patients, closing institutions and turfing patients out of them to be 'looked after' by a mix of family, GP and Community Nurses (of whom there were...

Really? Why have we just bombed Syria then and not Israel? I will say again: even if true, that doesn't justify the use of chemical weapons against Palestinian civilians by the Israeli military.