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  1. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Hello again BobRyan- You said: I did believe in the Bible and the doctrine of Sola Scriptura. As far as general knowledge goes, I did believe that history and science were beneficial to the pursuit of truth and knowledge. But as far as matters related to the faith went I'd say my faith boiled...
  2. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    BobRyan- Great point. It is indeed competing interpretations which we're dealing with here and not simply bald Scripture. The only difference between us, in a certain way, is that you think you're on the right side of the interpretation process and I think the Catholic Church is on the right...
  3. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    DHK, I appreciate what you've shared. But before I send any of my other responses your way, let me say this: I will substantiate everything I say to you solely from the Bible once you show me a Bible passage that says I must substantiate everything I say to you solely from the Bible. Again, I...
  4. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Hello BobRyan, You've said a lot here. Obviously as I attempt to continue my responses to DHK I will not be able to field what you've presented at this point. I could in the future, certainly. But as I just said to Darrell C., if you wish to join in on the conversation here which is already...
  5. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Darrell C., I am doing what I can to keep organized as far as the conversation with DHK goes. For now, I'd say it would be quite impossible to respond to him and manage another conversation. If you want to dive in with the interaction that's already taking place between us, that would be great...
  6. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    DHK, Again, I will have to follow up with all of the new topics you're introducing later. For now, here is a bit more of what I'd already been writing in response to you before you presented those simplified points: Part III I don’t see that I am wrong here because the things you think I...
  7. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    DHK, Thanks for your continued feedback, though I see you've brought up a host of other issues. For now, we'll put those on the shelf and I'll wrap these posts up here over the next few days and then get back to that summarized list you presented before tackling issues related to the Communion...
  8. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Hello, Darrell C.- I am a bit confused. It seems as though, because of my poor formatting, you took some quotes that I was reviewing with DHK (which were things he'd originally written) and mistook them for my statements and then responded to them! If this is what happened, I'd encourage you...
  9. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    DHK, I really appreciate what you’ve done here to streamline this conversation. That will make things much more manageable. But quite honestly, I am here for the long haul. It took 500 years to tie this knot. We won't unravel it in a few paragraphs. But I hope that we can at least come to...
  10. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    DHK, So here's the situation from my perspective: I showed up and answered a specific question with a reference to the Catechism related to the Catholic Church's position concerning non-Christians monotheists (chief among whom are the Muslims). You responded and in just the first posts brought...
  11. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    DHK, No problem, DHK. I wish to avoid personal attacks. And that looked like a personal attack. If you didn't intend it to be taken that way, no problem. Thanks for clearing that up. Again, I'll get back to your other points. Oftentimes, I think we're talking past one another. But if you're up...
  12. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    DHK, I would have loved to continue discussing these matters with you. For we hardly got started. As it is, I will look forward to engaging with others from now on. Thank you, Herbert VanderLugt
  13. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Hi, Darrell- Thanks for the formatting help! As I said, I don't have much experience at all in this type of forum. For the record, I wasn't saying I could just start a little "church" in my basement and still be considered Catholic. If I did such a thing I would be disregarding basic Catholic...
  14. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Alright, Darrell- I won't take the time to respond then, since you'll be moving on. Good luck on your search. I'd recommend anything from the Catechism or the former Assemblies of God Youth Minister, Tim Staples. In Him, Herbert VanderLugt
  15. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Gerhard, Could you please identify anything I or another Catholic on this thread have said which demonstrates how evil Catholicism is? Please cite the exact text and explain why it is evil. Thanks. Herbert VanderLugt
  16. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Part G In response to me you continued: Obviously. That was my point of the above illustration. Not "bishops." A response: Nothing here is obvious to me. I am quite confused by a number of twists and turns this conversation has taken. I am trying to respond to everything you’ve brought up...
  17. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Part F You continued: Isaiah 8:20 To the law and to the testimony: if they speak not according to this word, it is because there is no light in them. A response: Yes, this is another reference to the Scriptures which are upheld within the Church. The mere presentation of this verse does...
  18. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Part E You continued: That being said: Jesus said "Except a man be born again you cannot enter into the kingdom of God." A response: Yes, this is just one verse of Scripture, among the all the Church upholds, that captures a particularly poignant conversation between Christ and Nicodemus. The...
  19. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Part D You continued: --As for cloning I believe it is still against the law. A response: Your response concerning human cloning implies the existence of one universal law binding upon all humans on all continents. Yes, human cloning is currently banned in many nations. However, human-animal...
  20. herbert

    Vicar of Jesus Christ?

    Part C You continued: However, for the RCC to condemn the practice and a family ends up with too many children that they can handle on a financial basis is a sin on the church's behalf. A response: Now you seem to be using the word “condemn” in reference not to individuals but to certain...
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