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I know we had a conversation about this in the past, but I don't believe the kjv Translators had a horse like mystical animal in mind when the chose "unicorn". For their translation. A unicorn does not have to be the mystical version. It simply means an animal having one horn. The kjv is always...

I already did, and I use scripture to interpret scripture seeing how the word of God cannot contradict itself. Now you explain why Paul said a believer's works can be burned up yet he himself remain saved? Is Paul contradicting Jesus?

What is the context? It is bearing fruit. If you want to make this passage about one losing their salvation, then you have to say you believe one is saved by their works. What must be in view to be burned is the works. We all have good fruit and bad fruit. The good fruit is done through...

Ok. So it is not about works, good or bad, or producing fruit or the lack thereof, correct? It is about trust. You trust Jesus Christ to save you.

"We" did no such thing. Adam brought sin upon us all. Your argument that all deserve the justice of hell because we rebel against God fails miserably. We are all born with condemnation because of the curse, not because we all choose to rebel against God. If all babies are saved, then it is...

You could argue such if it were not for the fact that all are born condemned a sinner from the womb, having no option but to sin, and not understanding why they sin. This is where TULIP fails.

That's what I asked you.......

Really? Faith is placing a trust in someone or something.... How about describing what "falling away from the faith" looks like?

Are you saved by faith plus good behavior? Or are you saved by faith alone? Unless we have a foundation as to what is actually saving you, we will end up jumping all around the scriptures as we see here, confusing passages that speak of works as passages that are speaking of staying saved. We...

I'm not sure you are thinking this through. You say it is all about faith, not works. Then you bring up passages that are clearly speaking about works. Do you believe your works keep you saved? Now you bring up "living like Lucifer". Again, I thought we are saved by faith alone, not faith plus...

Sure is. Sure did.

Help me understand why you are afraid you will stop believing vooks...

Now your mixing and matching passages that do not go together. Stay in context. Now do you have an explanation why Paul said those who have bad works will still be saved by fire? (1Cor3:15)

"If any man's work shall be burned, he shall suffer loss: but he himself shall be saved; yet so as by fire". (1Cor3:15) The context of John 15 is works - bearing fruit..."Now ye are clean through the word which I have spoken unto you. Abide in me, and I in you. As the branch cannot bear fruit...

There you go. Has nothing to do with keeping yourself saved...."For if these things be in you, and abound, they make you that ye shall neither be barren nor unfruitful in the knowledge of our Lord Jesus Christ. John 15 is about "bearing fruit" not keeping your faith. So are you now suggesting...

Of course it is conditional. One must believe on Jesus Christ. I believe it is you who have no answer, seeing how you did not answer... "And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to...

It's refreshing to see the scriptures represented as written. :thumbs:

"And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. For if these things be in you, and abound, they...

So Arminians do not believe one is justified by faith alone, they must also keep all the commandments without fail. Guess that is why I am not an Arminian.

No. And that is why your position is error. Those who overcome, are those who believe in Jesus Christ. There is no working to retain your saving faith. Once you have been born of God, eternal life in Jesus Christ is in you forever. 1Jo5:4 "For whatsoever is born of God overcometh the world...