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You know the craziest thing about all of this? Israel today is very much aware of Isaiah 60, they know its coming, but they still reject the One who will do it. The Lord has some strange ways of doing things, but He loves His Chosen people that much.

I don't think I need to create a new thread, I've already revealed enough to make my point.

Did you notice is Isaiah 60 the Lord is speaking to Israel and tells them that Gentiles will come, and kings and bow before your feet? They will bring you gold and silver. and any nation that will not serve you I will waste?

Yes, I agree we are all one in Christ both Jew and Gentile. There is only one Covenant for both Jew and Gentile. But before the Throne of God descends down from Heaven to earth and God Himself (the Father) dwells among men, Israel has a date with destiny. That destiny will span 1000 years as...

The way I see it God allowed free will to take its natural course. Knowing what would happen and allowed it. If God wanted man to love and obey Him of his own free will, that was His only choice. So He allowed man to fall into that sinful state, and with great love provided a way out for him...

That would fit perfect if the topic was Hades.

Yea, we agreed to disagree. But I give 37818 credit for persistence. He'll wear you out in the long run. I don't have that much patience.

Thank you and God bless, Brother.

Your fingers have got to be sore, take a break and we will get to it in the new thread.

The key to understanding the future of Israel is found in the promises God made to their father Abraham through the birthright to Isaac and Jacob/Israel.

I've already stated what Paul meant by Rom. 2:28. But I don't expect you to believe it, just as you have not believed anything else. I'll clear it up in the thread.

In fact, I will do my best to complete that thread this weekend. At the latest say Mon. I will name the thread, "Israel finds their glory."

You can verify all of this if you read Zechariah and bits and pieces of Paul's letters. I thin this would be a good thread for me to start one day and I can pull up all the Scripture to confirm the above post.

Paul said that all of Israel will be saved. There can be no mistake he is speaking of national Israel, he calls them his countrymen. They are saved at the Second Coming when Christ comes to destroy the anti-Christ as he is in the process of destroying Israel. They will see with their own eyes...

Most of what all the 12 minor prophets discuss is the future of Israel. Paul adds much to it for a better understanding. So if you haven't studied this, then you're lacking in this conversation.

Well, I don't know you and I don't want to be rude. But it's very obvious you haven't read the minor prophets and have no idea what you're talking about.

Brother, you need to take some time and read the minor prophets, especially Zechariah, then come back and we can talk.

@Martin Marprelate This is God giving Israel out of love what He wanted for them, He's giving them a second chance and they will succeed this time. If God had chosen the Church as His chosen people and not Israel and the shoe was on the other foot, He would have done the same for the Church.

Believe what you will, what is that to me?

Yes it is Christ that rules. But the entire world will have to come through the Jews to get to HIm. It's believed the 10 men from all the nations are envoys that come to pay respects to Christ, they are accompanied by the Jewish priests. Zechariah says that all nations will come to Jerusalem...