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Story here. Whatever one thought of her politics, she was a great stateswoman and stuck to her principles throughout. We're unlikely to see her like again in my lifetime.

'Liberal excuse'???!! Realism, more like it. I think regrettably that the best we can hope for is to make it less legal and do our best to win hearts and minds in the meantime through the Gospel.

Abortion would be illegal from conception if I had my way. But it isn't and chances are it won't be in my time. So I'm looking for other ways to try to reduce its incidence.

Indeed, as EW&F has said, we do have a vibrant Men's Ministry here which is also closely related to these guys

Evidence? Even if it does (which is debatable - the world has changed in the last 50+ years; if what you're saying is true then there wouldn't be so many unwanted pregnancies which wind up at the abortion clinics) is this a gamble with the lives of the unborn which you're willing to take? I know...

Quite so but I'm not sure what that has to do with the topic: here we are talking about trying to stop one wrong - fornication, which happens regardless of contraceptive availability, sadly - resulting in another - abortion. So it's actually about reducing two wrongs to one

Where does that mention bread and wine?

<Teenagers having sex shock horror!> If it stops the girl concerned getting pregnant and having an abortion, I'm all for it. Preventing teenagers having sex has far more to do with their environment (home, school, church, peer group(s)) than it does with the availability or otherwise of...

Philippians 3:17-21 indeed!

It seems he's now been fired; it may well be the case that the school were awaiting the outcome of the Prof's disciplinary process before going public. Or it may not...

At your service :smilewinkgrin:

Not quite - more like saying that an American is English in ancestry rather than German.

Not quite the whole story: apparently he was suspended for threatening the Prof, not for refusing to stamp on the paper.

Italian origin. Not Hispanic

Typically on a board such as this, PSA

I would suggest that at least part of the reason that they are skewed is precisely because one theory is over-emphasised at the expense and sometimes to the exclusion of the others.

I think that's covered under the penal substitutionary atonement theory.

There's more than one way of skinning this particular cat, Yeshua. If one view is over-emphasised at the expense of the others, it can lead to a skewed soteriology.

Can't we have an option, "All of them"? That's what I would have gone for!

Now where did I say that? I was questioning your singling out of Catholicism was this particular criticism when it is self-evident that all churches suffer from this malaise. That is indeed rational.