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...even though David is presently in exile in sunny Stoke-on-Trent:tongue3:

Couple of points arising from that: firstly, how does one become a 'disciple of Christ' and what exactly does that term mean? Secondly, there doesn't seem to be any mention of the Cross in your answer, although I'm sure that was an oversight!:smilewinkgrin:

Meaning what, exactly?

I've heard a Catholic priest say something very similar in his sermon (on the Feast of the Assumption, ironically!).

...if someone came up to you and asked "How do I become a Christian? What must I do to be saved?" Assume the enquirer is ignorant of theological language and is only saying 'saved' because s/he heard it somewhere.

Our BB pals David Moore and Martin Wickens would like as not object to that!

I hope they realise it was tongue in cheek. I can't stand Piers Moron (did you guess?), particularly not since when he was editor of the Daily Mirror (left-leaning tabloid here) he presided over an attempt to discredit the Lancashire Regiment in Iraq by publishing fake photos of them abusing...

Pleeeez, pleeeez keep him. Or deport him to a Taliban-controlled area of Afghanistan or Pakistan with a T-Shirt in the local dialect saying something like "I think Mohammed was a pedophile". We don't want the odious little twerp back here.

'Self-evident', huh? So we Brits and our Irish cousins live in some kind of fascist dictatorship because we don't have guns to 'defend ourselves from a Big Bad Government'? Reality check for Crucified in Christ, please!

See the Eddie Izzard quote on the previous page for the reply to that old chestnut, Mike; your quote is a nice soundbite, but that's all it is. I was talking about 'we' in the UK; 'we' are no less free than 'you' and our degree of freedom was no different before the handgun ban than after it...

We are not 'less free' and our government is no more 'tyrannical' since the handgun ban in 1997; we were not 'more free' and the government less 'tyrannical' before then. We are a people as free as you are here and do not share the same urge to carry instruments of death around. Why do you...

The right to bear arms is in the context of there being a well-regulated militia. The words say what they say; you use some common sense!

You're still missing the 'well-regulated' part, aren't you.

Well, it's not statistics for a start: it's a mish-mash of conflated figures for apples and bananas in effect eg: it cites murder rates in the same breath as muggings. So, not in the slightest bit impressed

Er...I think you'll find I did refer to the right to bear arms; that's the bit that's so often quoted but the context is the well-regulated militia. Present US gun control panders to the 'right to bear arms' part at the expense of the 'well-regulated' part and it is high time before there is...

Nothing to do with 'left-wing' views (which, BTW, I don't particularly have: I have always voted Conservative:tongue3:) but to do with the compassion of the Gospel. I take it you use your car normally for purposes other than killing or maiming people as a rule? Would you use your gun for any...

<Shrug>. It's up to you. I would have thought as a Christian that you would want ownership of death-dealing instruments restricted. But apparently not. So your brothers and sisters here will continue to pray for the scales to fall from your eyes and in the meantime wait fearfully for the next...

We have a far far lower rate of gun deaths in the UK per capita. The below picture is out-of-date but still very pertinent - you do the math.

I take it you've read the whole of the Second Amendment, not just the bit about the right to bear arms? "A well-regulated militia being necessary to the security of a free state...". Last time I looked, a 'well-regulated militia' was not giving any old Tom, Dick and Harry the 'right' to carry...

Well, one doesn't use a gun for any other purpose other than to kill or maim; I woudl have thought that is obvious.