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I'll try to find it, but I recall Allan posting a very good defense for this doctrine. Meanwhile, I will say, that some might argue the doctrine of the "Trinity" is not really taught in scripture either because the word itself doesn't appear and it is the result of the systematization of many...

A deficiency in the fruits of the Spirit? Where did you get that? Faith comes through hearing. And humility is often the result of trail and error and the circumstances...i.e. eating from a pig trough can do wonders to one's pride. No. I am saying God provides what is needed for men to...

Faith...humility.... They choose not to believe what has clearly been revealed. In pride, they "trade the truth in for a lie" and "they perish because they refused to love the truth and so be saved." I can anticipate your response. I expect you to ask where faith and humility come...

For those following along I address Augustine's views HERE>>>

Luke's appeal to Augustine, doesn't answer the question I've posed to him on numerous occasions, though he thinks it does. He refers to Augustines teaching of evil as the "privatio boni ('privation of good'), or that which occurs when a being renounces its proper role in the order and structure...

You should see his reaction when someone introduces him to a guy named Emmanuel, or an Hispanic named Jesus. He goes NUTS! :laugh:

Not true. There are many who deny the logical possibility of even God having contra-causual freewill. And we are a unique image bearer of God, so there is no "higher" level of appeal to mystery, only the willingness to accept certain concepts over others. Why not accept the same principle when...

I'm fine with that term, it doesn't really change anything I've argued worth taking issue over... Here is where I think you take a leap not supported in the text. As you just quoted, after the fall Adam is now knowing, "good and evil," but it appears you think that fallen man only knows evil...

This ignores the fact the the intent had to have an origin with a PERSON, not a incapacity or a void. Those things describe the environment of the agent, they can't originate anything. Either God or Satan first originated the intent to do evil. I say Satan did. What do YOU say? Well...

Aaron, you do know that I believe in contra-causal freewill and Luke doesn't right? That is a significant difference you know. If asked my view regarding the origin of evil... the answer is the same as Winman just explained. We affirm that God has created free moral agent's who are mutable...

Steve, also, if you go back through that thread you will see that I consistently argued that Hodge DID affirm a view of Particular Redemption and thus was a 5 point Calvinists. I NEVER attempted to argue that Hodge wasn't a five pointer, remember? I simply pointed to the distinction Hodge drew...

I understand that and agree. There is NO such thing a a real four pointer. That is Phil's point and MINE!!!! In other words, he gives Amyraldism a place at the table but not "so-called four pointers." Why? Phil tells us: Because they "account for an eternal decree of election (which IS...

But "the incapability of good" is not a person. It may be a condition of an agent, but an "incapability" is not the originator of the intent. It's either Satan under the condition of being incapable of good, or it is God. Who originated the evil intent? Satan with the incapability of doing...

I think that about sums it up. :thumbsup: I'm done trying to have a discussion with Luke. He makes everything personal and turns most every post off the topic and on to non-sensical and unfounded critiques, typically followed by some kind of a puffed up peacock like display of prowess. I...

Pharoah, by his own choice, didn't want the Israelites to go anywhere. God didn't have to "make" him think that. He was self-hardened in that respect. Or "stubborn," if you will. That was his choice. God needed him to stay that way until He had accomplished His ultimate purpose through him...

I've wondered about what some believe regarding God's sovereignty in regard to hell. Will God be in "complete and total control" of the eternal torment of souls, or will He be genuinely separated from those in hell in every way?

I understand that, but there is a distinction between accomplishing salvation for every person and "removing all legal impediments" for every person, as Hodge put it.

Steve, You do know that Phil is best known as one of John MacArthur's ghost writers, right? MacArthur was once asked in a public forum what he thought of Calvinism in general and here is his reply: Seems that MacArthur recognizes and acknowledges a healthy tension in what some espouse as...

Take a deep breath and try to be objective. Right back at you... here is the hint for you: Some call it one thing and others call it something else. Clearly, PHIL "wouldn't glorify their position [that of so-called "four-pointers"] by labeling it Amyraldism." Why? Because 4-pointers don't...

I want you all to notice that Phil put's WGT Shedd under the Supra camp, even though he labels the Amyraldist as being the group that affirms the atonement as "sufficient for all." Now you all read this quote from Shedd and tell me there isn't some cross over on this point: Isn't this why...