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So how do you know that, for example, the Didache isn't theopneusta? It claims to be the teaching of the Apostles, just as much as eg: 1 Corinthians claims to be written by Paul. How do you know that it shouldn't be in the NT?

So does this mean that you're abandoning your theory - stated many times on this board - that the RCC only came into existence in the 4th century?

The Itala is a collection of codices of texts, the earliest of which dates back to c.150 AD, although the earliest extant MS of this dates from c.350 AD. This is the Codex Vercellensis, and it has just the four Gospels, so that rather gives the lie to the claim that all the churches had the...

It is indeed a silly conclusion but my denial does not insist upon it. To help you, I'll restate the point: none of the MSS referred to by DHK contain all 27 books of our NT; therefore their existence cannot be adduced as evidence to prove your bare assertion that: Do you now understand what is...

Again, we are talking about the theory which I believe you hold that the Catholic Church either 'left the faith' or 'came into existence' as an apostate entity in the 4th century. If that theory is true, then true Christianity contained - and therefore still adheres to - the doctrines and...

But I wasn't talking about that, I was addressing the contention that the Catholic Church 'left the faith in the 4th century': if that contention is correct then 'the faith' included the doctrines and practices listed by me.

Yes I do - we have the MSS and they do not, repeat not contain the NT Canon. The fact of the matter is that you are severely mistaken - it cannot be proved that the churches at the end of the 1st century had all the NT Canon and in fact the MSS to which you have referred prove that they didn't...

Except that I don't agree with the contention' I'm asking the poster who made it to substantiate his allegation. But let's run with Walter's suggestion: that it all went pear-shaped when Theodosius made Christianity the state religion in c. 380AD. If the (Catholic) Church hadn't 'left the...

None of those old MSS though contained the whole NT as we now know it, so I can't see how that adds to your and Walter's point about the Canon. And I'm sorry, but I'm not going to take seriously any Landmark-style revisionist history site.

Luke and Acts, together with 2 and 3 Jn just name individuals, not congregations or their geographical locations. It's a perfectly valid question - how do you know that your Bible isn't missing an inspired book or three? You have failed to answer it, and that is very telling.

On what date and in what way?

No you haven't! All you have done is asserted that they were accepted. You have adduced no real evidence in support of that assertion. You haven't even clarified who and where these congregations were, or even how you know that they were 'NT churches' (please also define that term and explain...

And which administration passed this law?

Really??! We don't have that kind of law over here (wish we did with the nationalised ones at least!).

The way I see it (at least from this side of the Pond:smilewinkgrin:): 1. The banks got themselves into difficulty in the last decade by gambling with other people's money and by lending to those who could not afford to repay (granted, those borrowers also have some responsibility, but the...

I've read the link and it states the issues very clearly, as does Ref. Bap.:thumbsup:. White comes out of it much better than Shea; however, he fails ultimately to come up with an answer to the elephant-in-the-drawing-room canonical question: how do you (the evangelical, sola Scriptura-ist) know...

Er...not quite. The Catholic Church in India owes far more to Portuguese missionaries and merchants from the 16th century onwards. The Mar Thoma Church founded by St Thomas has never been in communion with the See of Rome and indeed was persecuted on occasions by...er...those same Portuguese...

Menageriekeeper, :thumbsup:. (If that means I'm a liberal in Freeatlast's eyes, then I'm proud to be called that rather than be a supporter of a vicious thug of a so-called man.)

I'm not going to apologize for calling something that is vile, violent and despicable exactly what it is. The daughter may well indeed have been a brat - teenagers frequently are - but that does not excuse that kind of viciousness from her parents.

:rolleyes: Yeah, yeah, yeah, we're all evil godless libruls. Change the record already.