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Having looked up what 'pink slime' is, I have to ask how anyone in their right mind can it that stuff.

Pass the brain bleach, please....

Hold onto your hats, folks, but I agree 100% with DHK and the Biblicist here.

I'm not sure I would agree with that analysis: the language he himself uses would seem to belie that. Of course, he only speaks for the Antiochene and more widely the eastern part of the Church then, not Rome or the western part.

Quite the master of the non-sequitur, aren't we?

Certainly by the time of Ignatius (ie: within a decade of the end of the Apostolic Era) the bishop is definitely distinct from the (council of) the presbyters: he refers to the bishop as representing God and the presbyters as the Council of thee Apostles.

Hi Michael For Anglicans, it is tied up with the concept of Apostolic Succession - that the bishops, as successors of the Apostles, continued the pattern of Apostolic teaching after the last of the Apostles had departed. Therefore a bishop is much more than a mere 'office' but there is a...

@ Benjamin: "Amen!"

If this is so, then why is Titus responsible for 'appointing elders in every city' (kai katasteses kata polin presbyterous hos ego soi dietaxamen) - Titus 1:5b. Clearly Titus' role was regional (the whole island of Crete) rather than congregational. No silence here!

Wise words:thumbsup: Prayers being said here for you and your mother; she is blessed to have such a son.

Update: the doctors concerned have been suspended

There is no doubt that the meaning of episkopos by the time of the Pastorals had changed to regional superintendency. The real question here is why anybody would wish to remove the Deuterocanonicals! The OT scripture in most common use in the earliest church was the Septuagint, the Greek...

Ideally, yes. But we humans being somewhat frail (and speaking in particular for myself), it does help to have a season when we particularly concentrate on this. It also seems to be in accordance with the design of our Maker, in that it is well-established that it takes about 6 weeks to make or...

Same comment to you as to DaChaser; I'd rather rely on the early Christians to tell me what the Canon is than a bunch of anti-Christian Jews.

Er...no. Different words were used: presbyteros for 'elder', episkopos for 'bishop'and diakonos for 'deacon'. And it's quite clear that the meaning of episkopos used in the later Pauline texts (the Pastoral Epistles) is different in meaning (regional) from the meaning of used by Luke in Acts...

<Shrug> If you're going to ignore the historical facts, then there's no hope in dialoguing with you.:BangHead:

Er...no. The Jews only fixed the OT Canon at Jamnia/ Yavneh from about 80AD, when they deleted the DCs from their Canon. Their reason? The Second Temple had recently (70AD) been destroyed and they had been kicked out of the Promised Land so clearly G-d was upset with them (again). What might He...

Story here. Technically, this practice is illegal in the UK which, in theory does not have very liberal abortion laws, although in practice the law is interpreted liberally to amount to de facto abortion on demand. Heartening though to see that the government are launching an investigation but...

No, because - news flash - it isn't apostate

What about your love for Him? Do you have any?