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40000 in the 'Jims' worldwide would still feel rather better to them than the five adults (including them) in their present Meeting. Plus M-i-L's sister is still in the Jims.

The trouble is that there is an alternative: they could return to the Jimmies or else join the Rentons (a Connexion that arose from 1970 initially comprising all those who rejected James Taylor Jnr after the Aberdeen incident but now best described as "Jimmies without Jim"), both of which moves...

The problem is that they would say that their 'traditions' are not that but purely derived from God's Word (as so may posters say here!). Another complication - #5: They believe in household ie: infant baptism. Their rationale for this is similar to that of the Presbyterians ie: incorporation...

I'd appreciate your help with this rather personal question: My parents-in-law are Exclusive Brethren - not the Taylorite/' Jimmy' faction, although they grew up in that and split from them in 1970, but whilst they are not quite cult-like as the Jimmies are, they are still very 'tight' eg...

Also, there wasn't a King of the Netherlands (Holland) until 1815.

Hmmm... I always thought it was individuals who were converted, not countries.

Fortunately neither did the monster formerly known as Rodrigo Borgia, AFAIK. Infallibility only relates to matters of dogma pronounced ex cathedra and Alexander VI was too busy fathering children and being a bit of a b****** himself to bother with that kind of thing.

Thanks; that's appreciated.

You're just being rude and I refuse to engage with someone as rude and unpleasnat as you. I will just ignore your posts from now on as they are filled with unChristlike hate and anger.

There's no point; your posts are so blinded by bigotry and rudeness that it would be akin to casting pearls before swine. You're just as bad as the other lot to which I referred; both of you are so self-assured in your own arrogance and self-righteousness that you agree 100% with Scripture...

These other Christians say exectly the same thing! And they will say that you are philisophizing etc. All you can say in return is "you're wrong, the Word of God says...". And all they can say to you is the same. It's a total dialogue of the deaf. It leaves the outside observer such as myself...

8.00am Book of Common Prayer communion service at Crofton Old Church (10th century). Traditional Reformed with hymns, organ and 'thees and thous' liturgy. Four Bible readings + short (15-20 minute) sermon 9.30am Family Service (communion service once a month) at Holyrood Church: informal...

Hopefully a polite reply :smilewinkgrin:: hypostatic union is the technical theological term to describe the relationship between Jesus' humanity and His Divinity. Hypostasis is the Greek word used eg: in Heb 11:1 to describe faith, there usually translated 'substance'; it also crops up earlier...

That's weird because I come across Christians who think that what you believe comes from the pit of Hell, too, and that what they believe about what you believe is supported 110% by the Bible too. How one is supposed to judge between such two conflicting views of the Bible is a problem, isn't it?

There's also the bit, Ann, in Matt 22:32, where Jesus talks about Abraham, Isaac and Jacob being 'living' rather than 'dead'.

Then prayer itself is of no avail if God has already decreed what will happen and James 5:15-17 is in error.

Agreed, and it seems that you are on all fours with the Catholic JarJo on that point. But can you not see that you can intercede for someone's salvation and that God can answer that prayer by saving him/ her?

+ Putting your faith and trust in Him? But I would suggest that the former, at least for some, is a necessary precondition of the latter.

Yeah, and they all spoke English with a Hollywood accent!:smilewinkgrin:

Are you seriously suggesting we shouldn't pray for someone to get saved? Or pray for people generally? Do you think your prayers have no effect whatsoever?