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  1. J

    Music in worship

    No I cannot, but then again I cannot show you a lot of things that cannot be pleasing to God that are not explicitly directly stated againsts in scripture. Like I said before if God had spent all the time to declare al the don't the Bible would be very long, instead He declares what He does...
  2. J

    Music in worship

    What? You compare prayer and body functions with singing and adding mechanical instruments. I pray in many ways inmany postures, which has nothing to do with adding mechanical instruments to singing in worship. I do not judge I discern right from wrong according to the word of God. Romans 14...
  3. J

    Denominational division

    Acts 5:32 32 And we are His witnesses to these things, and so also is the Holy Spirit whom God has given to those who obey Him." NKJV Does this passage not say that those who obey God are given the H.S.? Is not repentance obedience towards God? Does not godly sorrow lead to...
  4. J

    What do I have to do to loose my salvation?

    So do you think that God has given even His children (saved souls) the choice of remaining in Him and being faithful? Does God given us choice to reject Him after being saved? Is there anyone in scripture that was saved yet chose the world over His life in Christ? 2 Tim 4:10 10 for Demas...
  5. J

    Denominational division

    Its "he" Darron, just so you don't have to keep typing "S/he". The definite article is found before faith in the Greek, showing that the faith, or the gospel, is meant. Actually the Majority text teaches me that faith in Ephesians 2:8 does not refer to subjective faith, it is not of...
  6. J

    Denominational division

    Eph 2:8-9 8 For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, 9 not of works, lest anyone should boast. NKJV Does it say through faith alone? Does it say not of all works? Which is not of yourselves, Grace or faith? If faith is a gift...
  7. J

    Music in worship

    Well I refuse to worship with mechanical instruments because God did not command it, can you tell me where God has given you authority to worship with them in N.T. scripture or an example of there use in worship? If something cannot be done according to truth (Scripture), then what authorizes...
  8. J

    Denominational division

    20because by the works of the Law no flesh will be justified in His sight; for through the Law comes the knowledge of sin.21But now apart from the Law the righteousness of God has been manifested, being witnessed by the Law and the Prophets, 22even the righteousness of God through faith in...
  9. J

    Denominational division

    What is the straw man that you refer to? All I asked is for you to explain how this verse teaches salvation by faith alone.
  10. J

    Denominational division

    22Since you have in obedience to the truth purified your souls for a sincere love of the brethren, fervently love one another from the heart, 23for you have been born again not of seed which is perishable but imperishable, that is, through the living and enduring word of God. Obedience...
  11. J

    Denominational division

    Since everyone seems to like this one passage a lot, then maybe someone could explain to me how they get salvation through or by faith alone, of course assuming that this passage is saying that it is by our subjective faith alone that saves us along with God grace. Then if it is all God's grace...
  12. J

    Music in worship

    The funny thing about forums, is that they are voluntary, nobody makes you come on and debate or argue, if they did not somehow enjoy it or want to they could easily deal with other issues. These people? You will not even debate the issue of women pastors, you want to talk about stupid...
  13. J

    Can CoC be considered Christian?

    Christians and only Christians are part of the body, which is the church, it is that simple. God took pains to assure us through James that salvation is not by faith alone. If there is no outward act part of salvation then belief if is not part of salvation. The point of the post was in...
  14. J

    Denominational division

    I need to be less judgemental about people who do not think like I do. However I will not bend or lean in areas that I believe are true although I investigate my positions on a regular basis. I do not believe in salvation by faith alone and do not see the scriptures teaching that. It is...
  15. J

    Music in worship

    Worship is directed towards God, and is to be done so in the manner that God has requested, whether Old or New Covenant. I will clarify what I meant about offering up instruments. I meant the music is played in honor of God, I assume, or why else would it be played. So not that the...
  16. J

    Women Pastors

    It is against biblical teaching to have women as "Pastors"; does the fact that some accept this create a problem for her and those who follow her?
  17. J

    Music in worship

    Have you ever heard of someone offering up electrical lighting to the Lord as worship; NO? Have you ever hear anyone offering up air conditioning to the Lord in worship; NO? Have you ever hear of someone offering up musical instruments to the Lord in worship; YES? Is there not a...
  18. J

    Denominational division

    Denominations are a result of people teaching opposing doctrines, especially those doctrines of salvation. Is it being suggested that the unity that Christ prayed for (John 17) could not be obtained apart from His return? If the Spirit led the Apostles into all truth and that foundation of...
  19. J

    Music in worship

    Worship is grounded in our relation to God, as creature to the Creator. That means we must come before God on His terms. The gifts we offer are those He appoints. Instrumental music was an act of worship and not an aid in the Old Testament. It was a separate act. Playing an instrument is doing...
  20. J

    Music in worship

    Having psalm does not imply always the playing an instrument. The point has been made already about how instruments were slowly introduced in churches long after the first century. Just do a historical study of worship, what about the church father, did they say anything about this? I...
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