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New development: the ICE agent hit by Renee Good in her car suffered internal bleeding from that: That is an extremely dangerous injury, often leading to death. My brother once had a motorcycle accident; ran into a tree during a race. His spleen was burst and he almost died--would have if no...

The rapture in the pre-trib position is the Lord taking His Bride out of tribulation. There are post-trib folks who don't see a need for a rapture at all, subsuming it as part of the 2nd coming. What is the theological need for a rapture in your position?

We were missionaries to Japan for 33 years, so I also am fascinated by pictographs. As I'm sure you know, Chinese characters are usually word pictures, and we had to learn 1000s of those in Japanese class. Noam Chomsky, well known linguist, has a theory of universal grammar, according to which...

Very cool thread. Do we have any OT mss in it? I've taken Hebrew and study it, but never paleo Hebrew.

Excellent post! Thank you.

I don't know what a "pipe of authority" is. Regardless, he did reference Missouri laws, which you have not. So at this point I'm trusting him, unless you are a lawyer (but you don't appear to be). But the fact remains that she was careless with a deadly weapon, as cars are legally considered...

I've never heard of any similar position, and I teach Eschatology! Interesting. I'm not sure how the events you are speaking of can be post-trib and post rapture, thus dividing up the rapture and 2nd coming, but then not trib events.

That's not what the law says, according to the video by a lawyer in a previous post on this thread. And she had a deadly weapon, her car. When used aggressively to cause injury or harm it is a deadly weapon. So are you saying that a federal agent should not be allowed to do anything but exactly...

So, I have no problem believing this will happen. But I'm not sure how that proves post-trib. And at one point you said post-trib and pre-wrath, which are two contradictory positions. Did you mean you hold to both of those?

Yes it is.

Yes they are. Then the Second Coming happens. But that description is nothing like a rapture (v. 37): it's public, powerful, and pervasive. Christ rules the earth from then on. We probably won't agree, but that's okay.

There are those who would classify the incident under "Darwin Awards." ;) "Let's see. I have a car, a deadly weapon, and he has a gun, a deadly weapon. Let's see who wins."

I believe it's possible to make threats and smile. It's easy to accidentally get into reverse. I did it myself the other day. Yet his cell phone shows that he was hit. I'd say it's possible for him to panic too. Only he had a gun. If one is protesting some police force or other, one should...

No offense, but you're speculating in some of this like everyone else. :Coffee For example, how do you know that the woman was not making any threats? How do you know she panicked? How do you know she didn't deliberately hit him? I wouldn't say yea or nay yet on any of those, personally.

Okay. I'm not sure what those Scriptures are for, but I respect your right to take your position. And why do you put "Pot-trib, pre-wrath rapture"? Those are two different positions.

I have no trouble doing so. I just can't see a new husband (Jesus) putting His bride (the Church) through a tribulation.

Yep, Dispensational Premil, Rapture, pre-trib. You?

Thank you. I watched the whole thing and was helped.

Okay, thanks. Reminds me of a sign I have on my office door.

According to Eph. 4, the primary purpose of church is to train the believers for ministry. So if you want to serve God, you should go to church to learn how.