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When the news came out about Ellen being J C Penny's spokesperson I was disappointed that this company would head in that direction. I use to shop there often. I buy most of my clothes a Penny's. I quit shopping there when this was announced. Today I heard of a same-sex ad they are now...

I remember when Slick Willy was in the Whitehouse there was a list of people who died mysteriously that were connected to the Clintons. On the list were Lawyers and policemen who protected them. I think there were about 20 or so on the list and most if not all had the propensity to have dirt on...

So this Klein guy is a fraud? We really don't need anyone going around like Dan Rather drumming up false stuff on Obama, this will lead to refuting anything that may be factual. Hey, maybe he's a plant by the left, you know a double spy, LOL:tongue3:

I think sometimes we trivialize stuff like astrology. I understand when Christians say it means nothing since it is fake or not real. I'm not sure, I don't think we should give Satan any edge even if it sounds fake.

You have lost me now. To me that is like saying there is a difference between a Christian and a Christ follower. :smilewinkgrin: I know Warren promotes guys like McLaren and Kimble and Stanley and I truly think these are all Emergent. Now I think Emergent is a very wide net that catches...

Well I guess I don't get out much. I have never been around such people. I have heard preaching against homosexuality but never towards homosexuals. Preaching that unrepentant sin deserves justice isn't hateful IMO, unless it is done with malice towards someone. As you say we are at...

Does Ephesians 2:8 tell us faith is a gift from God and that it isn't from man??

LOL, But wait maybe this is a good arguement? Never thought of that. :thumbs: No wait then we wouldn't have their bones either. Oh well!!!:smilewinkgrin:

I explained that he didn't call Christians these things very well, so please don't try to put words in my mouth. I see my version of Emergent is very close to what you have posted, thank you. I understand where you come from here, but I still feel Andy is building a strawman here for...

Jerome, As I remember Mohler took a lot of heat for those comments.

Here's a good short article: http://www.creationworldview.org/articles_view.asp?id=49

No, I said it is what he said, please listen to the sermon. This is a quote from the 8th sermon titled Christian. I said he didn't call Christians this but painted Christians like this to make a point.

It's very obvious when our POTUS said his administration will not respect DOMA because they feel it is unconstitutional. If that is all a Prez has to do to get his way then anything goes. He might as well pronounce himself King of the USA.

OK, since I have no clue of what Emergent means, please let me know the proper defenition. If I'm wrong I will apologize. Again I think Andy Stanley is a wonderful Christian man and preacher. As I said in my post I agree with most all he says. So don't think I'm bashing Stanley so much as...

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsfront/klein-wright-silence-obama/2012/05/13/id/438902 I wonder if this will get any traction? I'm sure it will get buried with his high school transcripts.

He has quit the GOP but what about the process alltogether?

Stanley didn't come out and call Christians Homophobs or such, but he did say it in his sermon without impuning himself. He set up a view of a Christian as being homophobic, intollerant and relishing people burning in hell as viewed by unchurched people. So he didn't call Christians this but got...

""Whether you agree with Rick Warren or not one thing is for sure. He is not Emergent. And there is a big difference between the Emerging and Emergent movements. The emergent movement is the far left wing radical side of things. "" Well I don't agree much with Rick Warren, I have researched...

PinJ, Do you think it is loving for Andy to condemn the church as being unloving and calling them names like homophobic. He even mentions in his sermon that some Christians secretly relish people burning in hell. Come on--he's painting the church as evil to attract whoever is put off by...

Amy, What Stanley preached yesterday is opposite of what you just said. He said we cannot preach to get anyone to love Jesus but we must love instead. What he should have said and may have meant, is that we must preach the truth AND love them. He wants to paint the church as unloving and...