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I believe that Abraham "rejoiced" through whatever means, that his redemption would be fulfilled by the promise of God in sending the Messiah.

Van and I were discussing Abraham's justification some time back, he was rightly saying there are several theories as to exactly how Abraham was justified. I have only one theory in how he was justified. Somehow in a dream or a vision or maybe straight out verbally, Abraham was made aware of...

LOL, Some of those Charismatics are strange folks.

I'm not a teacher, I can't break things down the way you can to be understood.

Yes, that was my purpose of posting it. Now tell 37818 that so he can understand it.

I was just giving you some things to consider on the pre-trib. view. If your can't see the pre-trib. that's ok.

We see things generally in the same. I originally responded to your post, the 1000 years part of it, confirming what you said on it and added a little extra on the 1000 years. I wasn't disagreeing I was confirming.

Somethinig else for you to think about on the pre-trib veiw. When Christ instructed John to write the letters to the Church in Rev., He said to tell the church this. Rev. 3:10 "Because thou hast kept the word of my patience, I also will keep thee from the hour of temptation, which shall come...

Of course it's literal.

In 1 Thes. 4 Paul explains the Rapture/Resurrection is coming, in chp. 5 he begins telling us to be prepared for it. Then in 5:9 he tells us this, "For God hath not appointed us to wrath, but to obtain salvation by our Lord Jesus Christ," Most of us Dispensationalists believe Paul is telling...

Regarding the 1000 years, it's mentioned 6 times in Rev. 20. 3 of those times it specifically says, "when/till the 1000 years are finished/expired.

Don't you think it would be a good idea to have a full understanding of exactly what you don't believe?

If you want to understand the Dispensationalist view of the Rapture I can show it to you in detail. At least you will know what to argue, but until you understand it all the way through your arguments will go around in circles. If you will just save the arguments till later we can move on...

LOL! I've read and studied the Scripture all of my life and I've learned, if nothing else, to follow the instructions of the Lord. That's what I'm doing, Cathode.

Here's the twist and hard to understand if it's not pointed out. The first resurrection in Rev. 20:6 and the martyrs of the Great Tribulation are included in the first resurrection. We can go through that too, when you're ready.

Note: The first resurrection in Rev. 20:6 is the same resurrection of 2 Thes. 2 that Paul gave us.

Let's go through it. In Rev. 20: 6 we have the first resurrection, and we know this is the resurrection of the saved. It plainly says the second death has no power over them. We also know these will reign with Christ for 1000 years. Vs. 7 the 1000 years have ended, and Satan is loosed from...

I thank God for them also! I don't know when or how they've helped me but I'm sure they have in some way serving God's purpose.

When I started a real down to earth study I had to set the "what if's" to the side. That's what you have here the what if's.

I get the part of the angels serving us, but the part of you calling on them, no sir, that a Catholic myth, unbiblical.