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I think of it as a different dimension… the spiritual dimension. Better to not think about it directionally but dimensionally… its a “revealing”

I am in the PNW and I can testify! Warm out here… just about time to start hiking… if I wait too long the ticks will come out!!

Wow! This is in my neck of the woods. I had just looked up Multanomahs seminary info and saw this. What a deception and betrayal. I had not heard of Jessup before and was wondering what was even known about it… so deceptive. Ty very much for sharing this… I think we will have many more...

No scripture, no refutation to Faith not being a work! Now you leave Matthew 5 and the clear reading of scripture on God blessing the poor in spirit to jump to a different book that talks about the Holy Spirit being poured out at Pentecost to try to justify your philosophy of God causing...

No, Those that mourn are blessed. It doesnt say God blesses those so they mourn. You are trying to reverse what the verse says to match your philosophy.

You can say you believe it, but then you contradict it by saying faith is a work of man. Scripture stands, your conclusion falls. Our faith in Jesus saves by His grace! Amen!

You said God gives the sinner a mourning for their sin: This verse doesnt say that. It says blessed are they that mourn. It says nothing anout God giving or causing it.

Romans 3:26-28 destroys this response… undisputable! This thread is an awesome testimony to how your philosophy cant answer scriptures clear teaching. His Word is glorious and unrefutable!

I can tell that you cant handle the Scriptural fortress against you… its why you have no scripture to answer and only deflect with generalities! Glory to Gods Word! It never fails!

None of those verses that you quoted as your proof say that God is the one doing it… you read that into the text: its not there. Edit: No “God caused mourning” in the text. No: “God gave him that frame and regenrated” No text, all you!

You can word game if you want. What I used in that quote is the description of faith. Put that word in there instead if it makes you happy. You still refuse to address that the Bible says Faith is not a work in Rom 3:26-28! You have said that Faith is a work, even with scripture directly...

Think of it this way: 1. Fall -> Flood -> Noah to carry on the Seed to crush the Serpent and Sin 2. Babel -> Nationalizing -> God choses Abraham (and Israel) to be His nation and carry on the Seed 3. Crucifixion -> De-nationalizing at Pentecost -> God choses all who repent and have faith in...

This chain of your replies not responding with scripture just strengthens the scriptural teaching that faith is not a work. This thread is a wonderful demonstration to all readers how unscriptural your view of faith being a work is! (I didnt even call it Calvinism for you… just your view...

Still no scripture I see. For all you quote out of context, you cant deny Rom 3:26-28. And the only reason I harp on this is that you try to put non-calvinists to the test, but can’t stand up to scripture when your view is put to the test. It’s good to drive this home again and again with...

The cognitive dissonance is real! I’ll pray for you to accept scripture brother or sister, and set aside your philosophical belief that faith is a work.

I see you have no contradiction of the scripture! Scripture continues to stand strong against your claim. What is your scripture to show that Faith is a work?

You are rejecting the word of God clearly stated in Romans 3:26-28 to cling to a tradition of men handed down to you. Dont do it!

No thats faith. Faith is not a work. Per Paul.

Respectfully, I disagree :D Let me explain Isaiah 42:1-9: The Chosen One is Christ, as God through Isaiah states here. God is choosing and appointing Christ as the light to the nations. God even verbalizes this directly in the New Testament in Luke 9:35 at the transfiguration: Lastly...