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You didnt even read the Expositors Greek Commentary that you quoted. You missed the conclusion at the bottom… which is what I’ve been telling you. :D If you would like to check more commentaries out, check out this great resource: https://biblehub.com/commentaries/ephesians/2-8.htm

I think the church’s error has been to focus on Theology to give assurance of salvation of yourself rather than to teach people to love the kingdom of God and His purposes and to pursue them through acting in love towards both ourselves and outsiders. As a result, we dont impact our culture, but...

I loved reading Spinoza’s Ethics. He had a great mind, though I didnt agree with some of his premises. For your reading pleasure: The Project Gutenberg E-text of The Ethics, by Benedict de Spinoza

Right, whether you are Calvinist or not, everyone should believe that Salvation is only God’s gift to give, which is the main idea of Eph 2:1-10.

Farewell, may God bless you today

Eph 2:8 teaches that salvation by grace is the gift of God, and the Greek doesnt overturn that. You just dont believe the Truth.

Sad way to end a thread… no answers

I dont mean to upset, but we have had maybe 10 exchanges where you are confirming all of this, stating that God has ordained all things according to His will in Eph 1:11. I confirmed this at least 2x with you. There is a distinct difference between your view of sovereignty and a...

Fair enough. So you believe that God created the world in a place where He was sovereign but allowed Adam and Eve to have Free will? If so, then you believe a non-Calvinist‘s view of sovereignty. But you should not be saying this, because you should be saying that that God is sovereign over...

You are certainly welcome to appeal to a confession, but confessions or people professing that there are no contradictions or implications of sin doesnt make it so. I have studied Calvinism quite a bit, and I would think you would have an actual response to my questions instead of appealing to...

If you say that God sovereignly determines what peoples Salvific ends are, then you have a God who determines their fate. This is most Calvinists. Like you, most Calvinists only want to talk about the benefits of being elected to salvation as opposed to what God does with the rest of His...

The problem is evil is a problem for the Calvinist, because how you view sovereignty. 1. You just admitted that God ordained that Eve would sin. That His plan was that she would sin. Your theology holds that God sovereignly chose Sin. This is a massive departure from the faith from the...

Just saying no doesnt change the Gk or any of the verses that I just showed which do not work with how you suggest. Just because you want it to say that doesn’t absolve you from the responsibility to teach the word of God according to what Paul wrote under inspiration. It is clear you have no...

It changes everything. I would love for you to explain how your understanding of the verses works with your view that God gives it as a gift. As far as Gal 5:22 Faith that gives us access to the grace of Christ is something that all believers have. Everyone can additionally develop that fruit...

I just went through a lengthy back and forth clarifying your view of Eph 1:11 and you concluded that God’s purpose was for the reprobate to be on the wide path to destruction, not salvation. You literally just stated above that it was God’s predestined purpose for them sinning against Joseph...

Just because someone has authority or power doesnt always mean they exercise it. Ie, think of a king. They could take there army where they want and do what they please in their kingdom. Or not. But just because they dont doesnt mean they dont have authority to if they decided to. For now...

Thank you. My hope is to start some Scripture discussions regarding Ephesians that I will be teaching soon. Since I am only from a Bible Church, I will try to find the best forum to put this in and see if I can get some traction :D

First, I will just make the point that by affirming that God has predestined and orchestrated a plan for people to be on the Wide Path to hell from eternity past, you have nullified the “choice” and “free will” (your words, not mine) that you keep bringing up that you said demonstrates His love...

I totally understand! I greatly appreciate that you are actually answering. I am usually cranking at work, but today is slower. I’ll get to your big post but it also may be later. May God bless your afternoon for His kingdom!

No, the Greek is neuter but would have to be feminine for it to be referring to faith. Salvation by grace through faith is likely the gift. The verse literally denies what you are claiming it says. If I’m to understand you correctly, I’ve corrected these verses to how I should understand...