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Well, I’m not post-trib but post-mill. The beast is not some future person, but was Emperor Nero, who was nicknamed beast during his time on earth. Saints who failed to worship him were executed. The tribulation spoken of was fulfilled in AD 70 when the temple was flattened and Jerusalem was...

And that # 1000 is as literal as 7 is in Revelation 1:4, 3:1, 4:5, & 5:6.

Show me a pre-trib timing from that passage. Where does it explicitly give the timing of His appearing in that passage. But we do not want you to be uninformed, brethren, about those who are asleep, so that you will not grieve as do the rest who have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died...

Show me from 1 Thessalonians 4:13ff that His appearing in the cloud is pre-trib. Where does it explicitly state it?

Oh trust me, I know the dispensational view quite well.

Verse 13 qualifies those who received Him in verse 12. Those who received Him were born of God. It’s the effect before the cause in your stance my friend. So yes they received Him and were given the right to become His children. No disagreement there from me. But the reason why they received Him...

No, and I thank God every day for it.

You just cut off the thief on Jesus' right side, as he was never baptized.

From Adam Clarke's commentary, who was not a Calvinist: Verse 21. The like figure whereunto, c.] Dr. Macknight has translated this verse so as to make the meaning more clear: By which (water) the antitype baptism (not the putting away of the filth of the flesh, but the answer of a good...

And this has zero to do with Calvinism my friend. Your side of this debate has an unhealthy obsession with it.

So, those who have never been baptized die lost?

Come on guys, this thread is about baptism and not Augustine and what your thoughts about him are. Let's keep this thread from going off into rabbit trails.

Those are not some "what ifs" but realities. Those vss in no way, shape, form, or fashion, are to be taken literally.

The first resurrection is referred to as being saved, having passed from death unto life, per John 5:24 & 1 John 3:14, Colossians 2:12-13. Getting back to the 1000 being literal...I don't think that passage teaches a literal 1000 years. We see Satan as a dragon being chained for a 1000 years...

Show me the 1000 years betwixt the two resurrections.

How about these vss? Know therefore that the LORD your God, He is God, the faithful God, who keeps His covenant and His lovingkindness to a thousandth generation with those who love Him and keep His commandments;[Deuteronomy 7:9] If this is taken literally, and a biblical generation is ~ 40...

Can you show 1000 years between John 5:28-29 and Matthew 25:31ff?

That’s quite a stretch to the meaning applied to βαπτισμός (baptismos). That word doesn’t solely mean immersion, but washing as well. So, they weren’t literally immersing couches in water, but washing them. I know this user hasn’t been on here in a while, but wanted to address the post even when...

But here is Peter’s point: baptism plays a role—a very important role—in assuring our conscience. Christ’s blood cleanses the conscience because we are assured that the sacrifice of Christ satisfies God for our sins. In addition baptism is “the answer of a good conscience toward God” (v. 21)...

Baptism Now Saves Us: An Assured Conscience So what is the status of a baptized person in the Roman Catholic Church? His sins have been removed, but “concupiscence” remains. In Roman Catholicism, concupiscence is a moral weakness, a tendency toward sin, which is itself not sin and which can be...