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Ok gotta clear up this... John The Baptist had empowerment not the indwelling of the Holy Spirit, indwelling happened at Pentecost after the ascension, John is no exception.

in the midst is among them, yes.

One greek meaning on Acts 4:8, Luke 1:15, furnished, accomplished (power).... specific purpose, not indwelling.

I did apologize thanks ! I was a little off kilter but it comes with the territory. I'm sure he understands there's a lot of wishy washy people who can claim to be who they aren't and the state of the church isn't any better, so I'm leery who I listen to. I don't know him from Adam, and he did...

Ok ya got me, Christ had all authority after his resurrection, but only at the right hand of the father was he able to pour out the spirit to believers. So... the OP's contention to resolve the pouring out of the spirit in the OT verses the NT... The OT God was in authority, so yes He poured out...

Really ? It hasn't changed ? LOL OK... It's still faith alone OT yes... But I shouldn't have to tell you about Faith alone in Christ is required to have salvation, should I not just Jehovah? So Jews or anyone else can have faith in Jehovah God in the OT. JW's believe that, Jews believe that...

He was the only one before birth Dave, but it wasn't until the ascension that believers received the spirit. Either A you are not well versed in theology or B you are not a true believer Dave and are involved in some sort of other denomination that is not the church of Christ.

are you forgetting how they have salvation during that time mentioned of rejecting the Prophets, verses the time of that passage that Christ was preaching about ? It wasn't the same requirements to have salvation.

because that passage and verse isn't about salvation, that's why.

Ben Then they were never chosen to begin with. And... If you read God gives those to Christ He chose. God is alot bigger than our finite mind can wrap our heads around. You're thinking of Christ weeping over Jerusalem, gathering chicks as a hen and they would not. He was speaking what Israel...

predestined.... is an English word, and in the Greek mean the same thing. Pre.. before destined to eternal life. Determined before, predetermined, before ordained. It's a self explanatory word, that can't be expounded on to mean something else other than what it means. How does an Armenian...

Luke 3:22 King James Version 22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. Yes three in one but God sent the holy Ghost in a bodily shape, a bodily shape signifying the spirit...

I won't say that people aren't getting saved, and I'm sayin' it's not the most important part of conversation... but, The whimsical message salvation message and l can’t accept that it’s genuine.

My point is God conviction with the power of his spirit, if guilt is his tool, so be it. But witnesses who built of guilt not preaching the power of the Holy Spirit is worthless.

And niether did l but some use a little too much forcing people to make a decision they’re not ready to make.

Given the earth to dress it keep it.nothing to do with regenerating

dominion ? He gave Adam dominion over the animals, as well as us. His ordained government over man by men but the law is created by God. So no, we don't have complete dominion over ourselves. Our conscience is driven by a Sovereign God and I don't see that as micromanaging, I call that a loving...

BINGO !

the only problem with what he said was "you wanna find out, just come to Jesus"...... by thier themselves, no conviction, convincing of the Holy Spirit. No explanation about are you ready, are you prepared, feel convicted are you convinced you're a sinner, Is God paving the way in your heart ...

In one sermon over the other, he contradicting. Men are able to believe, only with the drawing/convicting and convincing of the holy spirit. The responsibility, of men, is... to confess/believe, not to be convicted/convinced on thier own. When I witness I always ask if they have the desire, or...