1/3 of randomly tested people in Massachusetts has antibodies to covid

[Particular]

You are deliberately and dishonestly distorting the calculations and the seriousness of the situation. You were in error by a factor of 10 and you just shrug it off.

It's NOT the percentage, it's the total number of deaths.



I see. Correcting your errors in mathematics is "fear mongering."



Tell me, did you get vaccinated for smallpox when you were a kid? Did you get vaccinated against German measles? If you have children were they vaccinated against German measles? How about chickenpox?

Are you washing your hands frequently? Staying at home? Avoiding crowds?

If so, why?



Sing your song again:
"Que sera, sera
Whatever will be, will be
The future's not ours to see
Que sera, sera
What will be, will be."

Again, the total number of deaths is exactly the number God has ordained at this present time, by this present virus.
Quit fear mongering and start trusting that God has this virus under control. He speaks the word and it vanishes off the face of the Earth.
God is using this virus for His glory and for His perfect will to be accomplished. Trust Him.

 

[InTheLight]

Again, the total number of deaths is exactly the number God has ordained at this present time, by this present virus.

So, no matter how many deaths there are, it's the perfect number.

Tell me, did you get vaccinated for smallpox when you were a kid? Did you get vaccinated against German measles? If you have children were they vaccinated against German measles? How about chickenpox?

Are you washing your hands frequently? Staying at home? Avoiding crowds?

 

[Particular]

And that will only matter to those who are politically motivated to try and make the fataility rate appear smaller to downplay the severity of the disease to their listeners who they hope are not very good at math and can't realize that a smaller percentage of a larger number of cases still results in the same devastating number of deaths.

As of right now that is 45,000 deaths in 7 weeks. In 7 weeks covid19 would already be the 11th leading cause of death in 2017 for the year. In a few more days it would be the 8th leading cause of death.

https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/nvsr/nvsr68/nvsr68_09-508.pdf



But of course it is not big deal and nothing to worry about because it will be a TINY fatality rate.

What are all the underlying health problems that existed? The vast majority of people dying have other complications that are a large factor in how COVID19 is functioning in their bodies. This virus is not acting in a bubble.

 

[Particular]

OK, it's been 24 hours since I posted this yesterday. The death count is now 45,134. That's 3,000 per day.

Out of 350,000,000 people.
How long would it take for the entire population to die off at this rate?

 

[Particular]

So, no matter how many deaths there are, it's the perfect number.

Tell me, did you get vaccinated for smallpox when you were a kid? Did you get vaccinated against German measles? If you have children were they vaccinated against German measles? How about chickenpox?

Are you washing your hands frequently? Staying at home? Avoiding crowds?

There is no correlation in your question. No one has said that humans shouldn't use proper hygiene or that humans should not try find a vaccine.
All I am saying is that the sky is not falling, as you are proclaiming it is doing.

 

[Gold Dragon]

What are all the underlying health problems that existed? The vast majority of people dying have other complications that are a large factor in how COVID19 is functioning in their bodies. This virus is not acting in a bubble.

That is how influenza deaths work too. All respiratory infections preferentially kill those who have more underlying health conditions who struggle to fight off the disease. But that person would not have died then if it were not for the respiratory infection.

If you want to downplay covid19 deaths because of preexisting conditions, then you have to do the same for influenza. And the gap between severity of covid19 and influenza would be even more pronounced.

 

[Walpole]

Context...

---> QuickStats: Average Daily Number of Deaths, by Month — United States,

---> Road Safety Facts — Association for Safe International Road Travel


This country has never been closer to socialism than it is right now. It's never good idea to trade a fear of one's own mortality for one's liberty.

 

[InTheLight]

Out of 350,000,000 people.

How long would it take for the entire population to die off at this rate?

According to you, as long as God wants it to take.

 

[InTheLight]

There is no correlation in your question. No one has said that humans shouldn't use proper hygiene or that humans should not try find a vaccine.
All I am saying is that the sky is not falling, as you are proclaiming it is doing.

I am not saying the sky is falling.

I'm saying:

* That you are bad at math.
* That you deliberately picked inaccurate numbers to make your strawman case.
* That dividing out the deaths from COVID-19 into the US population is a fool's errand, and is a measurement of absolutely no relevance.

 

[Gold Dragon]

I am not saying the sky is falling.

I'm saying:

* That you are bad at math.
* That you deliberately picked inaccurate numbers to make your strawman case.
* That dividing out the deaths from COVID-19 into the US population is a fool's errand, and is a measurement of absolutely no relevance.

Economic policy is part of politics.

Their bad math is an attempt to deceive themself and others based on politics that covid19 is nothing to worry about by pointing at a number that appears small. But if you can do math and compare with real statistics, it is actually a massive number.

 

[Scott Downey]

Job 12:9-11 New King James Version (NKJV)
9 Who among all these does not know
That the hand of the Lord has done this,
10 In whose hand is the life of every living thing,
And the breath of all mankind?
11 Does not the ear test words
And the [c]mouth taste its food?


The hand of God is in all things that occur, nothing can happen except for the Lord, for all things are of, to, for, and through Him. And He is before all things and in Him all things consist. Conversely all things will not exist if He wills it so.

Acts 17
Therefore, the One whom you worship without knowing, Him I proclaim to you: 24 God, who made the world and everything in it, since He is Lord of heaven and earth, does not dwell in temples made with hands. 25 Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things.

Ecclesiastes 9 New King James Version (NKJV)
Death Comes to All
9 For I considered all this in my heart, so that I could declare it all: that the righteous and the wise and their works are in the hand of God. People know neither love nor hatred by anything they see before them. 2 All things come alike to all:
One event happens to the righteous and the wicked;
To the good, the clean, and the unclean;
To him who sacrifices and him who does not sacrifice.
As is the good, so is the sinner;
He who takes an oath as he who fears an oath.
3 This is an evil in all that is done under the sun: that one thing happens to all. Truly the hearts of the sons of men are full of evil; madness is in their hearts while they live, and after that they go to the dead. 4 But for him who is joined to all the living there is hope, for a living dog is better than a dead lion.
5 For the living know that they will die;
But the dead know nothing,
And they have no more reward,
For the memory of them is forgotten.
6 Also their love, their hatred, and their envy have now perished;
Nevermore will they have a share
In anything done under the sun.
7 Go, eat your bread with joy,
And drink your wine with a merry heart;
For God has already accepted your works.
8 Let your garments always be white,
And let your head lack no oil.

 

[Gold Dragon]

25 Nor is He worshiped with men’s hands, as though He needed anything, since He gives to all life, breath, and all things.

Thank God he does.

And there are many groups who abuse these scriptures to reject all medical treatment like The Church of Christ, Scientists and these groups.

Breaking News, Analysis, Politics, Blogs, News Photos, Video, Tech Reviews - TIME.com

 

[Benjamin]

So, no matter how many deaths there are, it's the perfect number.

Ah, have you noticed there seems to be a trend developing by a certain group to simplemindedly resort to proclaiming that this disease is God’s will and He is in control, thus, never mind taking responsible measures to fight it. I’m calling this trend the: Triple-C Syndrome (Calvinist Covidiot Correlation)

 

[Calminian]

Ah, have you noticed there seems to be a trend developing by a certain group to simplemindedly resort to proclaiming that this disease is God’s will and He is in control, thus, never mind taking responsible measures to fight it. I’m calling this trend the: Triple-C Syndrome (Calvinist Covidiot Correlation)

Wow, I'm not a calvinists by most standards, but what a lie. I don't know any calvinists who subscribe to this. Can you name the specific calvinists you're accusing? Sides on this debate completely transcend soteriological views, and soteriology transcends this debate.

This is akin to your 6% lie.

 

[Benjamin]

Wow, I'm not a calvinists by most standards, but what a lie. I don't know any calvinists who subscribe to this. Can you name the specific calvinists you're accusing? Sides on this debate completely transcend soteriological views, and soteriology transcends this debate.

This is akin to your 6% lie.

I'm not wasting my time spelling out the truth to you. If the shoe fits wear it, if it doesn't quit crying about it. [snip]

 

[Calminian]

I'm not wasting my time spelling out the truth to you.....

Oh yes you will. You can't stop yourself.

And your calvinists accusation is a lie, steeped in ignorance. I've debated calvinists on various topics for many years. You don't know the topic or anything about the debate.

 

[Benjamin]

And your calvinists accusation is a lie, steeped in ignorance. I've debated calvinists on various topics for many years. You don't know the topic or anything about the debate.

You seriously need to take a

 

[InTheLight]

And your calvinists accusation is a lie, steeped in ignorance. I've debated calvinists on various topics for many years. You don't know the topic or anything about the debate.

Now that was funny.




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[Calminian]

Now that was funny.

How so?

 

[Benjamin]

This is akin to your 6% lie.

You know, I’ve nicely told you I would appreciate you stop calling me a liar. I’ve followed by explaining where the figures come from and Gold Dragon even spelled it out for you better than I. So why don’t you grow up and deal with the argument rather than showing your ignorance while you resort to hysterical name calling rather than address the argument?

CFR is case fatality rate. When dealing with statistics for infectious diseases, it is a commonly cited statistic calculated by dividing confirmed deaths by confirmed cases, by definition.


For the US it is 4.8% according to covid tracking

Most recent data


and 5.3% according to worldometer.

United States Coronavirus: 792,759 Cases and 42,514 Deaths - Worldometer


and 5.2% according to the CDC

Coronavirus Disease 2019 (COVID-19) in the U.S.


The CFR is also constantly changing with more testing and more time for cases to resolve as many cases are still active and we don’t know if they will die or not.