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1 Corinthians 6:16-17

Alan Gross

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The question for study is why do so many translations alter the passive grammar and translate the word as meaning joins himself.

Look at the context of these verses. What do they tell us?

Paul uses the same phrasing:
he who is joined to a harlot is one body with her
he who is joined to the Lord is one spirit with Him

The grammatical construction allows for either a passive or middle understanding of the participle so we must look to context for an answer.

The context is focused on the volition of those involved. A middle voice. Are they forced to go into a harlot {passive} NO. Are they drawn to the harlot {middle} YES. It is the same with Christ we are not forced, we are drawn to Him. Only God saves but He only saves the willing.

They were not forced {passive} to do either of these things. We see this view carried out in the next verse where they are to actively reject sin.

I believe that the "light switch must be switched", 'ON', logically, before "the light bulb comes on".
 

Van

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Well you offered no explanation. Your whole argument still seems to be based totally on God. How is that not automatic?
You could at least point out your side of the issue.
Why is there a big issue with free will? It does have a dictionary definition.
I grew up with the fact of free will offerings in church.
Was that a passive active way of forcing people to give against their will?

More questions, more denial of truth, and more attempts to change the subject to me. Same ol, same ol.

How is that not automatic? LOL, the claim was if a person puts their faith in Christ, they were automatically saved. That is the false doctrine that is unbiblical nonsense, as putting our faith in Christ does not automatically result in salvation. See the second and third soils of Matthew 13.

According to God's word, we are joined to the Spirit of Christ when God places us into Christ's spiritual body.
 

Van

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How does the NASB say anything different than the ESV?
1 Peter 1:20-21

He was foreknown before the foundation of the world but was made manifest in the last times for the sake of you who through him are believers in God, who raised him from the dead and gave him glory, so that your faith and hope are in God.

Or the NLT?
1 Peter 1:20-21

God chose him as your ransom long before the world began, but he has now revealed him to you in these last days. Through Christ you have come to trust in God. And you have placed your faith and hope in God because he raised Christ from the dead and gave him great glory.

In other words... what's your point???
Here the false claim is made the through Jesus, God instilled faith in the believers of God by means of "irresistible grace." This false Calvinist doctrine has no actual support anywhere is scripture, including our verse. The actual idea is that Christ's birth, life, sacrificial death, and resurrection provides the basis for believing in God. Calvinism is a relic of the dark ages and should be consigned to the dust bin of history.
 
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