lol..fyi i was talking about anybody and everybody who wants to bash the IFB name just because of a small group ....again thats ANYBODY..ANYWHERE..i'm not limiting that to just this post/thread or forum....
the definition of a hater is ANYONE who hates

but yeah..it also is used (and this is the way I was using it) with my generation as a description of just someone who resents, disapproves, dislikes etc..and thats anyone who fits in that category when discussing IFB's as is being done on this thread
and my definition of trash talking ..is stating things that is just junk..nonsense..slander..gossip..demeaning..belittling...judgmental..ignorant..biased..the list goes on..
MamaCW, there is a big difference between "trash talking" and bringing the truth of sin out into the light.
I realize that on this thread and the previous one that was mercifully closed, I made comments that some believed were aimed at ALL IFBs and accusing to all IFBs in general. I want to apologize for offending anyone here who is truly trying to live a godly life. I do not wish to portray ALL IFBs as monsters, child molesters, and wife abusers simply because that is all I've ever seen and all I've ever known in the many, many churches I've attended that were IFB. There is a slight possibility that some of you are not guilty of this and you are innocent until proven guilty.
On the other hand, I'd like to explain how the reactions of some of you have caused me much grief. Maybe, in your ignorance, you do not understand what it is like to be abused, indoctrinated, judged, and repressed until you become a walking shell of a person.
Many of the comments here want to deny your churches are even capable of such, and I'm here to tell you, YES THEY ARE. You personally might be deceived, as many were by my own parents, and do not believe your precious friends capable of such. Maybe you are blinded by your own self-righteousness. I don't know. I do know that for healing to begin, you must admit there is a problem, and several of you here do not want to believe that. You don't want to hear it or deal with it. You want to distance yourselves from the problem and say it doesn't exist, or is rare. I'm telling you, it DOES exist and the consequences are damaging for those who experience it. As long as IFB preachers and colleges are teaching that men are the ULTIMATE authority, women should put up with abuse to be "submissive" etc. there is the potential for great harm. That potential is expanded by the lack of accountability in IFB churches.
Not a single one of you here, except for Don, has indicated any interest in HELPING victims of this abuse. You've all yelled about how wonderful your churches are and how hard you are trying to serve God. You've called me bitter and basically told me to shut up simply for trying to bring sin to light. It doesn't matter to me all the GOOD that you've done. Show some LOVE and admit you can do more to prevent abuse and protect the innocent. Show me some humility and compassion and maybe I'll care about all your good works.
If any of you are really ready to admit that maybe, just maybe, you or your church is overlooking abuse, I'll be happy to help give you some guidelines of things to look for to help others.
Until then, I'm done trying to convince you that you aren't as perfect as you think. Some of you have no idea that you're actually adding to the pain of others by your careless, judgmental, defensive attitudes. I love you all, but I pray God will open your eyes to the truth before more people, like myself, are severely damaged by IFB churches.