24 hour sinless day

[tinytim]

But thats the hard part

What does the word from the Word say??

The spirit indeed is willing but the flesh is __________!

The flesh is what??

If we are talking about my flesh, it is UGLY!!!:laugh:

 

[Bible Believing Bill]

Perfection is possible for all of God's Children, Bill.

The Bible would not say:
2 Corinthians 13:11 Finally, brethren, farewell. Be perfect, be of good comfort, be of one mind, live in peace; and the God of love and peace shall be with you.

Even some in Paul's time were considered as being perfect, for we read:
Philippians 3:15 Let us therefore, as many as be perfect, be thus minded: and if in any thing ye be otherwise minded, God shall reveal even this unto you.

The thing is, to be perfect, we must be submitted to God, wholly to His service, yielded to His hands to be molded into that which He would have us be.

But, alas, we still sin... some more than others, but we still fall from time to time.

But because we do fall from time to time, does that mean we are to give up on striving to be that vessel that He would have us be?

So you admit that we sin from time to time. If we sin then we are not perfect. It is as simple as that. We should strive for perfection, but we will not achieve it because we were born with a sin nature. There are so many types of sin that one is going to sneak up on us without our noticing.

This will be my last post on this subject. HBSMN has his view and I have mine. I doubt either of us will change their mind.

Bill :godisgood:

 

[saturneptune]

I think the truth of this thread is quite evident from a solid majority of well educated, trained and leaders in various ministries.

 

[gopchad]

The above statement is an impossibility. God's Word says 'Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fullfill the lusts of the flesh.'.

If you are walking in the Spirit, there is not going to be a 'when I sin.' If there were, then God's Word would be a lie.

And I repeat, it is possible to go 24 hours without sin. When one is yielded over to the things of God, all things are poossible to them that believe.

Actually friend, I don't believe I said one way or the other whether or not I believed it was possible. I am one of the 5 "yes" votes. My point was that we will never be without sin, and those who are intent on walking in the Spirit will be sensitive to the fact that they have sinned. Walking in the Spirit does not mean that we will never sin again. 1John makes it clear that immediate confession will result in unbroken fellowship with God.

 

[His Blood Spoke My Name]

Let me put forth the same challenge I gave another poster in a pm...

Show me Scripture that emphatically states that a certain individual Christian in the New Testament committed a sin each and every day.

I cannot find one instance.

Paul admitted he sinned, but he did not say it was every day that he sinned. Paul stated that he had to beat his body and keep it under subjection, but that does not mean he sinned each and every day. It shows a resistance to giving in to the lusts of the flesh.

So tell me, where is the Scripture that says a certain individual sins each and every day?

 

[His Blood Spoke My Name]

So you admit that we sin from time to time. If we sin then we are not perfect. It is as simple as that. We should strive for perfection, but we will not achieve it because we were born with a sin nature. There are so many types of sin that one is going to sneak up on us without our noticing.

This will be my last post on this subject. HBSMN has his view and I have mine. I doubt either of us will change their mind.

Bill :godisgood:

There certainly is a way to reach that level of perfection here on this earth.

The Bible declares that Enoch 'walked with God...'
We also read that Job was 'perfect and upright; one that feared God and eschewed evil".

Job was able to turn off, to put away evil. Job was born with the same sin nature as all are born with.

So, why is it not possible to reach the same level of perfection of Job?

 

[saturneptune]

Let me put forth the same challenge I gave another poster in a pm...

Show me Scripture that emphatically states that a certain individual Christian in the New Testament committed a sin each and every day.

I cannot find one instance.

Paul admitted he sinned, but he did not say it was every day that he sinned. Paul stated that he had to beat his body and keep it under subjection, but that does not mean he sinned each and every day. It shows a resistance to giving in to the lusts of the flesh.

So tell me, where is the Scripture that says a certain individual sins each and every day?

It is called common sense and everyday experience. From the tone of your posts, I would say you are quite good at sinning every 24 hours. Also, if you went a 24 or whatever period, it implies you did not need God's grace for that time. Since you are adamant about obeying rules and not living by the Spirit, I would expect nothing less.

 

[EdSutton]

The above statement is an impossibility. God's Word says 'Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fullfill the lusts of the flesh.'.

If you are walking in the Spirit, there is not going to be a 'when I sin.' If there were, then God's Word would be a lie.

And I repeat, it is possible to go 24 hours without sin. When one is yielded over to the things of God, all things are poossible to them that believe.

Is there any difference between "walking in the Spirit" (as Paul speaks of), and "walking in the light" (as John speaks of)? I hope you address this for me, please. Thank you.

Ed

 

[His Blood Spoke My Name]

It is called common sense and everyday experience. From the tone of your posts, I would say you are quite good at sinning every 24 hours. Also, if you went a 24 or whatever period, it implies you did not need God's grace for that time. Since you are adamant about obeying rules and not living by the Spirit, I would expect nothing less.

It is by God's grace that one is saved. It is His Spirit that keeps one from sinning. The Spirit convinces one of sin, not Grace.

Your accusations are unfounded.

Plus, you have not answered the question with Scripture. What seems to be the right answer, if not backed up with Scripture, is the wrong answer.

 

[npetreley]

Is there any difference between "walking in the Spirit" (as Paul speaks of), and "walking in the light" (as John speaks of)? I hope you address this for me, please. Thank you.

Ed

This should be good. I'm going to go make some popcorn.

 

[saturneptune]

Well, if you must have a Scripture, try reading Romans 7 and 8. You idea of a 24 hour sinless day is a mockery to the finished work of Christ on the cross.

Tell me, Mr Sinless prefection, in your 24 hour sinless period, do you not pray without ceasing, since there is no need for it in your sinless state. Is that in itself a sin?

 

[His Blood Spoke My Name]

Well, if you must have a Scripture, try reading Romans 7 and 8. You idea of a 24 hour sinless day is a mockery to the finished work of Christ on the cross.

Tell me, Mr Sinless prefection, in your 24 hour sinless period, do you not pray without ceasing, since there is no need for it in your sinless state. Is that in itself a sin?

I have read and re-read Romans 7 and Romans 8 and find only one instance of a day being mentioned. And that has nothing to do with the Christian committing sin... that has to do with persecution of Christians.

Can't you find one verse that proves that a certain individual cannot go a full 24 hours without committing a sin?

I did not think so.

 

[Martin]

I have read and re-read Romans 7 and Romans 8 and find only one instance of a day being mentioned. And that has nothing to do with the Christian committing sin... that has to do with persecution of Christians.

Can't you find one verse that proves that a certain individual cannot go a full 24 hours without committing a sin?

I did not think so.

Before you continue bragging about your 24hr sinless periods there is an important matter that needs your attention:

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1026265&postcount=87

 

[npetreley]

Before you continue bragging about your 24hr sinless periods there is an important matter that needs your attention:

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=1026265&postcount=87

Don't hold your breath. When's the last time you heard a sinless person confess to lying? :laugh:

 

[Linda64]

Well, if you must have a Scripture, try reading Romans 7 and 8. You idea of a 24 hour sinless day is a mockery to the finished work of Christ on the cross.

Tell me, Mr Sinless prefection, in your 24 hour sinless period, do you not pray without ceasing, since there is no need for it in your sinless state. Is that in itself a sin?

HBSMN is not saying he is sinless, far from it. I have read this entire thread and even noticed that 6 people have voted "Yes" that one can go for 24 hours without sinning. I'm wondering how you interpret Galations 5:16 in the light of the topic of this thread. It appears to me that people on here are saying: "Since I have a sin nature, and since Jesus has forgiven all my sins, I may as well yield to the flesh and sin" That is a defeatest attitude and the reason why so many Christians are not living in victory. We have been set free from the bondage of sin--we DON'T have to sin, yet we do--it's going to be a lifetime struggle until the return of the Lord. Try reading Romans 6 along with chapters 7 and 8.

This I say then, Walk in the Spirit, and ye shall not fulfil the lust of the flesh. (Galatians 5:16)

How is this done if one is constantly yielding to the flesh and saying that one can't go for 24 hours without sinning?

 

[webdog]

I have read this entire thread and even noticed that 6 people have voted "Yes" that one can go for 24 hours without sinning.

Those 6 must have the ability to sleep 24 hours....wait, that would even be a sin (lazy)

 

[mcdirector]

We are reading that thread differently Linda. I'm not seeing people say that they give into sin but rather when they sin, they confess and are restored. I claim the victorious life that only comes through faith in Jesus. It is the setting of an arbitrary sinless time period that people are calling into question.

Since we are in Galations, 6:1 mentions a spirit of gentleness. I fear that is severly lacking in many of these discussions.

 

[His Blood Spoke My Name]

mcdirector,

I lay the challenge before you that I have laid before others.

Produce Scripture that emphatically states that one cannot go a full 24 hours without sin.

As I pointed out before, Enoch walked in Victory... was he not born with a sin nature?

Job was said to be 'perfect and upright; one who feared God and turned away from evil'. Was he not born with a sin nature?

One can go without sin if one determines not to give in to it, but first, one must be submitted to God.

We do not have to sin. We have the victory over sin if we yield to the Spirit.

Many are mocking me because I am stating a Biblical fact. That is ok, Jesus said those who follow Him would be reviled, persecuted and lied about.

 

[npetreley]

Job was said to be 'perfect and upright; one who feared God and turned away from evil'. Was he not born with a sin nature?

Let's ask Job if he thought he was sinless:

5 “I have heard of You by the hearing of the ear,
But now my eye sees You.
6 Therefore I abhor myself,
And repent in dust and ashes.”

That's his answer.

 

[mcdirector]

mcdirector,

I lay the challenge before you that I have laid before others.

Produce Scripture that emphatically states that one cannot go a full 24 hours without sin.

Why are you laying out a challenge for me? My last post was an observation of the thread.

I do not think that there is a scripture that lays out how long we can or can not go without sinning. What I do know is that when I sin, I am quickly grieved and want desperately to confess.