You're being ridiculous with these baseless accusations constantly. Where is the struggle?
You do what you can do and that is all you can do! Keeping the 7th day sabbath is easy also.
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You do what you can do and that is all you can do! Keeping the 7th day sabbath is easy also.
You call them baseless because the gospel is foolishness to you, Jason. We pray for you.
Your gospel is lawlessness. Not the one of scripture. I call that bad news
Nope. It's the law, perfectly fulfilled by my God on my behalf. I am filled with joy in Christ. My burdens have been removed and my life is found in Christ. Joy inexpressible, Jason.
You can't come against me about oral law with oral law. That just isn't a good tactic,
What you fail to realize, is that the torah specifies every grain offering must be SEASONED with salt:
Lev_2:13 ‘And season with salt every offering of your grain offering, and do not allow the salt of the covenant of your Elohim to be lacking from your grain offering. With all your offerings you bring salt.
Salting meat is not commanded, but seasoning the grain offerings is. You are also to include frankincense, but that doesn't mean you use it to pull out blood. Reading the written word clears up oral law confusion.
Good grief, you even ignore the pertinent information that comes from the Jews themselves? What hutzpah you have! Really now my friend, don't you think that they certainly know more about Judaism then you do?
There is not just the Torah that the Jews use in their lives, but other books that encompass all of Jewish life and thought throughout the ages. For your edification, the following is a basic structured list of the central works of Jewish practice and thought.
Tanakh[54] (Hebrew Bible) and Rabbinic literature
- Works of the Talmudic Era (classic rabbinic literature)
- Mishnah and commentaries
- Tosefta and the minor tractates
- Talmud:
- The Babylonian Talmud and commentaries
- Jerusalem Talmud and commentaries
- Midrashic literature:
- Halakhic literature
- Major Codes of Jewish Law and Custom
- Mishneh Torah and commentaries
- Tur and commentaries
- Shulchan Aruch and commentaries
- Responsa literature
- Major Codes of Jewish Law and Custom
- Jewish Thought and Ethics
- Jewish philosophy
- Musar literature and other works of Jewish ethics
- Kabbalah
- Hasidic works
- Siddur and Jewish liturgy
- Piyyut (Classical Jewish poetry)
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So you're taking joy in lawlessness? Is His Word the burden you speak of?
I'm really not understanding why you are promoting the oral law all of the sudden as a standard of righteousness. Man-made religion always fails (catholicism included). What stands forever is the written word.
Pro_30:6 Do not add to His Words, Lest He reprove you and you be found a liar.
Nope. I'm taking joy in Christ, God himself, fulfilling the law and placing me within his family. God has set me free. It's so wonderful to know my Father loves me unconditionally.
I wish you knew such joy, Jason.
I have got to hand it to you, you are persistent in ignoring everything that does not validate your made up belief's. Imagine, a non-Jew who thinks he knows more than the Jews themselves - who would have ever thought such a thing possible? Oh well, such is life!
Free from what?
So you're saying the guys who got kicked out of their land were right after all? Why do you think they had such utter destruction in 70ad?
I'm saying that I showed where you are wrong on what kosher really is. If you can get such a basic truth of Judaism wrong, your credibility on the whole of the Jewish experience is very low.
You should repent and return to the Catholic faith. Immerse yourself once again in the beauty of her liturgy, accept with great joy the Real Presence of Jesus in the Holy Eucharist, and revel in the solid orthodox Christian teaching of God's Holy Church. Jesus is waiting for you with open arms.
Free from condemnation.
Right, he took your law breaking penalties on Himself. So now do we continue law breaking and rack up some more sins?
I wasn't saying to eat kosher according to Judaism, I was saying eat kosher according to the written word (I keep making this point over and over).
With 20% or more of your priests being gay, many that are pedophiles, an ultra liberal and socialist pope, a jesuit order that infiltrates organizations around the world, a history of killing millions and millions of people, a theology that transgresses the written word, and the setting up of idols all about, I will have to say NO THANKS. That is a haunt of demons.
Jason, I'm bowing out for a little while.
Hopefully God will open your eyes that Moses will only bring death but Jesus brings Life eternal.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
My prayers for you and yours.
HankD
Hopefully God will open your eyes that Moses will only bring death but Jesus brings Life eternal.
John 14:6 Jesus saith unto him, I am the way, the truth, and the life: no man cometh unto the Father, but by me.
My prayers for you and yours.
HankD
Free from condemnation. What don't you get.
Romans 8:1-3
So now there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus. And because you belong to him, the power of the life-giving Spirit has freed you from the power of sin that leads to death. The law of Moses was unable to save us because of the weakness of our sinful nature. So God did what the law could not do...
Jason, God has set me free as His adopted child. I have great joy in Christ. I'm sorry you are still in chains. Yeshua, YHWH himself, cam set you free. I pray that such freedom comes to your chained spirit.
What i'm gathering from you is that you think the Word of Elohim (torah) is bondage.
I'm also gathering that you think we can break the law to no effect now.
Are these true?
What does God tell us in Romans 8, Jason. What you or I think is irrelevant. What God says is imperative.
Romans 8:1-39
[1]So now there is no condemnation for those who belong to Christ Jesus.
[2]And because you belong to him, the power of the life-giving Spirit has freed you from the power of sin that leads to death.
[3]The law of Moses was unable to save us because of the weakness of our sinful nature. So God did what the law could not do. He sent his own Son in a body like the bodies we sinners have. And in that body God declared an end to sin’s control over us by giving his Son as a sacrifice for our sins.
[4]He did this so that the just requirement of the law would be fully satisfied for us, who no longer follow our sinful nature but instead follow the Spirit.
[5]Those who are dominated by the sinful nature think about sinful things, but those who are controlled by the Holy Spirit think about things that please the Spirit.
[6]So letting your sinful nature control your mind leads to death. But letting the Spirit control your mind leads to life and peace.
[7]For the sinful nature is always hostile to God. It never did obey God’s laws, and it never will.
[8]That’s why those who are still under the control of their sinful nature can never please God.
[9]But you are not controlled by your sinful nature. You are controlled by the Spirit if you have the Spirit of God living in you. (And remember that those who do not have the Spirit of Christ living in them do not belong to him at all.)
[10]And Christ lives within you, so even though your body will die because of sin, the Spirit gives you life because you have been made right with God.
[11]The Spirit of God, who raised Jesus from the dead, lives in you. And just as God raised Christ Jesus from the dead, he will give life to your mortal bodies by this same Spirit living within you.
[12]Therefore, dear brothers and sisters, you have no obligation to do what your sinful nature urges you to do.
[13]For if you live by its dictates, you will die. But if through the power of the Spirit you put to death the deeds of your sinful nature, you will live.
[14]For all who are led by the Spirit of God are children of God.
[15]So you have not received a spirit that makes you fearful slaves. Instead, you received God’s Spirit when he adopted you as his own children. Now we call him, “Abba, Father.”
[16]For his Spirit joins with our spirit to affirm that we are God’s children.
[17]And since we are his children, we are his heirs. In fact, together with Christ we are heirs of God’s glory. But if we are to share his glory, we must also share his suffering.
[18]Yet what we suffer now is nothing compared to the glory he will reveal to us later.
[19]For all creation is waiting eagerly for that future day when God will reveal who his children really are.
[20]Against its will, all creation was subjected to God’s curse. But with eager hope,
[21]the creation looks forward to the day when it will join God’s children in glorious freedom from death and decay.
[22]For we know that all creation has been groaning as in the pains of childbirth right up to the present time.
[23]And we believers also groan, even though we have the Holy Spirit within us as a foretaste of future glory, for we long for our bodies to be released from sin and suffering. We, too, wait with eager hope for the day when God will give us our full rights as his adopted children, including the new bodies he has promised us.
[24]We were given this hope when we were saved. (If we already have something, we don’t need to hope for it.
[25]But if we look forward to something we don’t yet have, we must wait patiently and confidently.)
[26]And the Holy Spirit helps us in our weakness. For example, we don’t know what God wants us to pray for. But the Holy Spirit prays for us with groanings that cannot be expressed in words.
[27]And the Father who knows all hearts knows what the Spirit is saying, for the Spirit pleads for us believers in harmony with God’s own will.
[28]And we know that God causes everything to work together for the good of those who love God and are called according to his purpose for them.
[29]For God knew his people in advance, and he chose them to become like his Son, so that his Son would be the firstborn among many brothers and sisters.
[30]And having chosen them, he called them to come to him. And having called them, he gave them right standing with himself. And having given them right standing, he gave them his glory.
[31]What shall we say about such wonderful things as these? If God is for us, who can ever be against us?
[32]Since he did not spare even his own Son but gave him up for us all, won’t he also give us everything else?
[33]Who dares accuse us whom God has chosen for his own? No one—for God himself has given us right standing with himself.
[34]Who then will condemn us? No one—for Christ Jesus died for us and was raised to life for us, and he is sitting in the place of honor at God’s right hand, pleading for us.
[35]Can anything ever separate us from Christ’s love? Does it mean he no longer loves us if we have trouble or calamity, or are persecuted, or hungry, or destitute, or in danger, or threatened with death?
[36](As the Scriptures say, “For your sake we are killed every day; we are being slaughtered like sheep.”)
[37]No, despite all these things, overwhelming victory is ours through Christ, who loved us.
[38]And I am convinced that nothing can ever separate us from God’s love. Neither death nor life, neither angels nor demons, neither our fears for today nor our worries about tomorrow—not even the powers of hell can separate us from God’s love.
[39]No power in the sky above or in the earth below—indeed, nothing in all creation will ever be able to separate us from the love of God that is revealed in Christ Jesus our Lord.
Joh 8:43 “Why do you not know what I say? Because you are unable to hear My Word.
Joh_5:24 Verily, verily, I say unto you, He that heareth my word, and believeth on him that sent me, hath everlasting life, and shall not come into condemnation; but is passed from death unto life.
Jer 23:29 “Is not My Word like a fire?” declares יהוה, “and like a hammer that shatters a rock?
Joh_8:31 Then said Jesus to those Jews which believed on him, If ye continue in my word, then are ye my disciples indeed;
Rev_3:8 I know thy works: behold, I have set before thee an open door, and no man can shut it: for thou hast a little strength, and hast kept my word, and hast not denied my name.
Psa_105:28 He sent darkness, and made it dark; and they rebelled not against his word.
Psa_106:24 Yea, they despised the pleasant land, they believed not his word:
Psa_107:20 He sent his word, and healed them, and delivered them from their destructions.
Psa_119:9 BETH. Wherewithal shall a young man cleanse his way? by taking heed thereto according to thy word.
Psa_119:11 Thy word have I hid in mine heart, that I might not sin against thee.
Psa_119:16 I will delight myself in thy statutes: I will not forget thy word.
Num 15:30 ‘But the being who does whatever defiantly, whether he is native or a stranger, he reviles יהוה, and that being shall be cut off from among his people.
Num 15:31 ‘Because he has despised the word of YHVH, and has broken His command, that being shall certainly be cut off, his crookedness is upon him.’ ”
Joh 5:46 “For if you believed Mosheh, you would have believed Me, since he wrote about Me.
Joh 5:47 “But if you do not believe his writings, how shall you believe My words?”
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