No, He was the Word of Father, became the Son when born
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A question about Heaven
- Thread starter Salty
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And was also Yahweh
37818
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Then you believe He was not truthful when He said "now I Know."
37818
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I believe He was always both the Son and Yahweh. John 1:1-3. John 1:18, NKJV.
37818
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Again, the evidence, Genesis 22:12 and Mark 13:32 with Acts of the Apostles 1:7. You can understand it however it makes sense to you.
Did not mean He did not know, as was speaking in human like terms there!
Jesus was and is fully God, and in His deity has never forgotten or learned anything new!
was he not also Yahweh then?
canadyjd
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I remember a Pastor once saying God never asks a question to get information. He is moving someone to understand something important.
peace to you
Indeed, would we say when God asked Adam "where are you?" he really had lost him then?
37818
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The Word who is the Son always has the two natures. First being the LORD [Yahweh] and the second being with the LORD God, being the Son. Being God is being uncaused and eternal. And being the Son being finite and temporal where He would never be fully omniscient, this you are not hearing to be true. As God the Son He never changed in any way. As the Son He changed how He was with God.
37818
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He is both Yahweh being the one and the same God and with Yahweh being a different Person other than God.
Jesus before he was born as Jesus, was the etrnal Word of the Father, and had ONLY the nature of Yahweh, as he was Yahweh, same as the Father and Holy Spirit also!
No, before he was physically born, was just Yahweh!
37818
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A falsehood. According to John 1:1-2, He was both "with God" and "was God." God being Yahweh, God does not change. The Word changed according to John 1:14. How He was with God changed, but He did not from being God.
37818
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That is not true. He was always also with God meaning He was also always someone other than Yahweh. John 1:2. 2 John 1:9.
37818
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What speculation? There are explicit teachings in the New Testament.
You should be specific as to the stumbling being made.
37818
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Then that is modalism.