DHK
Yes you said "someone." Your meaning was obvious
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Do not project your foul ideas on me. If I need to you be my spokesman I will ask you to. You say what you say...let me say what I say...I told you this perhaps 8 or 9 times now. I post within bb rules, unlike others here evidently.
but now you are backtracking and trying to weasel out of what you said.
I do not need to. I stand by what I said. if you or anyone else offers biblical correction I will look and take it. if you, steaver, or plain and simple , in the light just accuse and cannot back it up...I do not accept it at all. I expose it like I am doing here...
Notice steaver is whining, and yet...he has not commented on any one of the verses I offered...Speak up Syeaver my friend, or are you waiting for DHK to do it for you?:laugh:
Who was the someone or the group that the someone represented?
Let's narrow it down by logic;
It was....WHOSOEVER...could be a Mormon, could be a RC, a jW... a professed missionary, could be a legalist, could be a professed Cal, read what I posted...not what you think I might have meant..
Did the someone mean you, Icon?
Are you:
"someone believes something in the strength of their own flesh does it mean it was a God-given understanding or saving understanding of divine truth."
or, were you speaking of those that agree with you, your fellow Calvinists?
DHK...no one is going to go back and read through several threads and follow in detail the conversation...it is boring to most people to do that, and they do not follow it.....I made a general comment and many times offer a general warning as Peter did, which you just brushed off without considering the text...let me help you once again, as this seems to evade your understanding... Did peter use specific names in the place or general warnings?
2 Peter 3 King James Version (KJV)
3
This second epistle, beloved, I now write unto you; in both which I stir up your pure minds by way of remembrance:
He is writing to the elect..he calls them beloved of God
2 That ye may be mindful of the words which were spoken before by the holy prophets, and of the commandment of us the apostles of the Lord and Saviour:
3 Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days
scoffers, walking after their own lusts,
general....scoffers walking in their own lusts
4 And saying, Where is the promise of his coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the beginning of the creation.
he tells us what they will say..in general terms..they question the second coming
5 For
this they willingly are ignorant of, that by the word of God the heavens were of old, and the earth standing out of the water and in the water:
He in general terms describes them as willingly ignorant
6 Whereby the world that then was, being overflowed with water, perished:
7 But the heavens and the earth, which are now, by the same word are kept in store, reserved unto fire against the day of judgment and perdition of ungodly men.
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But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
The elect
9 The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness;
but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
The elect..us ward..those elected to salvation, then and in the future not one will perish...
10 But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up.
11 Seeing then that all these things shall be dissolved,
what manner of persons ought ye to be in all holy conversation and godliness, the elect....
12 Looking for and hasting unto the coming of the day of God, wherein the heavens being on fire shall be dissolved, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat?
13 Nevertheless
we, according to his promise, look for new heavens and a new earth, wherein dwelleth righteousness.
the elect ..look for this..scoffers do not
14
Wherefore, beloved, seeing that ye look for such things, be diligent that ye may be found of him in peace, without spot, and blameless.
The elect
15 And account that the longsuffering of our Lord is salvation; even as our beloved brother Paul also according to the wisdom given unto him hath written unto you;
16 As also in all his epistles, speaking in them of these things; in which are some things hard to be understood,
I believe this is election and predestination
which they that are unlearned and unstable wrest, as they do also the other scriptures, unto their own destruction.
A general condemnation of those who are unable and unwilling to come to Divine truth..he writes it in general terms, but for sure these people exist, many in the churches, because he is warning the beloved brethren
17
Ye therefore, beloved, seeing ye know these things before, beware lest ye also,
He is contrasting the elect, with the wicked still
B] being led away with the error of the wicked[/B],
He calls those and refers to those who mock and scoff..as "the error of the wicked"
fall from your own stedfastness.
18 But grow in grace, and in the knowledge of our Lord and Saviour Jesus Christ. To him be glory both now and for ever. Amen.
then,
the only logical conclusion
well your logical conclusion is between you and God, do not inflict it on me and the other cal brothers
is that you were speaking of me
it could be you have a guilty conscience having spoken evil of AL MOHLER..that also is between you and God.
You and other non cals are not immune from the scriptural warnings offered however...again you do not get a cookie for being a non cal.
There is no "evil imagination" or intent, or lie, etc.
You know what YOU WROTE AND YOUR INTENTIONS...that also is between you and God. The fact that you do this over and over, and over,,,is troubling however.
You said what you said, and you meant it. Fess up!
I do not back off what I posted at all. the key is...WHAT I POSTED...Not what you try and allege that I posted:thumbsup:
