A sincere question for Catholics

Hi Folks,

I find it extremely interesting that just in the last century people were still being TORTURED to death for not agreeing with EVERY aspect of the Catholic dogma, but NOW according to this future Pope (so they say) ANY man can enter the Kingdom of God, I guess as long as they are good people? Is that the catch?

It doesn't really make much sense.

It seems like this man is really liberal.

I recall Pope John Paul II stating once in response to the 'antichrist' accusation that HE was not the antichrist but that he felt quite sure that whoever succeeds him would be the antichrist.

I can't help but point out that if what the current Pope said is true, this man would fit right in, for it would be only with a spirit of antichrist that one could say that there is another way to heaven other than conscious, purposed decision to follow Christ, and believe in Him for Salvation.

There IS NOT any other way. The Bible says so, and regardless of the Pope, or any other man 'saying' that there is another way, the BIBLE is the highest authority and it says that there is ONE way.

To answer the question about the American indians, I think this verse answers it best....

Act 17:30 And the times of this ignorance God winked at; but now commandeth all men every where to repent:

That is a very strong and poingnant statement that must not be misunderstood. It was the times of IGNORANCE that God winked at. Which WOULD NOT include people today who HAVE HEARD of God and Jesus, and STILL continue to worship other gods, and follow other doctrines, and have thought of other 'ways, truths, and lifes'.

I would say that YES the american indians will be in heaven, having never had the CHOICE to choose Christ, they are like little children who knew only what was shown to them through nature, and if memory serves me correctly they DID worship 'a' God who created them. The 'Great Spirit' in the sky. THAT would be a time of ignorance.

These people the Cardinal was speaking of DO NOT HAVE that luxury! They KNOW about Jesus, especially the Muslim, they all do.

I would be so bold to say that 99% of all the people in the world, through one medium or another have heard of the One God of the Bible, and His Son Jesus, who He sent.

The end is coming.

God Bless,
Kelly

 

Do you just make this stuff up?

Or do you get it from the SDA handbook.

This is absolutley the most ridiculous thing that I have heard in a long long time. And considering all the time that I spend on the BB, that says alot. </font>[/QUOTE]

 

Grant,

I think you and I both know better than that.

There is no conflict between the statement I made and the verse I supplied.

Jesus is the ONLY way.

Those who have never heard of Him WILL NOT be held accountable for rejecting Him.

Babies, the mentally retarded, and those who simply have not heard WILL NOT be held accountable.

Paul explained it best when he said that it was not until the LAW came to him that he THEN sinned and 'died'. Without knowledge of what sin is, a man is not accountable for that sin.

This is an argument that you and I should not have, considering that YOU believe in original sin, and I do not.

SO just leave it at that. My beliefs regarding how sin is imputed, is the basis for why I believe the Indians will get to heaven.

God Bless,
Kelly

ps.... the hell question. YES, all the babies, who die, all the PEOPLE who die, from Adam to me, will GO TO HELL. You have obviously forgotten my stance on hell to ask such a question.

 

Grant,
I did not make it up. That would be bearing false statement, which I tend to avoid at all cost.

I will have to look to find where I read it. That may take a while. I will find it though.

I was laughing at trying's accusation that I got it out of the SDA Handbook.

THAT is truly funny.

God Bless,
Kelly

 

Paul seems to say that men are without excuse in Romans 1:20 because of what is revealed of God through nature.

God Bless You,
Neal </font>[/QUOTE]To what extent though? Does a man living in a tribe who has never seen a Bible, or heard of Jesus know from nature that it is a sin to trip on psychotropic drugs? Is it a sin? Would 'nature' tell him it was a sin to consume something in nature? (I am playing DA here, I hope you get that )

My point is, if a man has no knowledge of sin, then he is still spiritually ALIVE, because it is SIN that kills. Like a little kid, who has not come to the age of accountability. They do not know that the things that they do are considered sin. Therefore the things that they do are not sin!

I spent 25 years of my life doing something that is against one of the commandments in the Bible. As soon as I read that it was a sin, I never did it again.

I believe that the times which I broke the commandment, during my ignorance, God WINKED at that, but once I came to the knowledge of that commandment, God was now calling me to repent, which not only means, feel remorse, but to TURN from that sin, and stop doing it!

According to what I have read in the Bible, the verse you quoted goes right along with that. We are held accountable for what we know, regardless of the source of that knowledge.

God Bless,
Kelly