Featured A.W. Pink - The Doctrine of Election

"Nice" way to encourage and react to a new poster van!

the very reason that we as sinners MUST have God granted faith, is that we have NO spiritual life in us until the time of being reborn in Christ, so we cannot come to Christ by ourselves, nor have "inherit faith!"
That is what Calvinists mean by knowing totality of the scriptures, as we must take into account the spiritual state of man before even getting into faith in Christ!

 

Yet another fiction, Yeshua1. More assertions with no reference to supporting scripture. Matthew 13:1-26 teaches fallen men, when presented with the gospel can receive it if they have not been hardened by the practice of sin or God for His purpose. Your doctrine has no support in scripture. What about no one seeks God? Does this mean no one seeks God at any time as Calvinism claims? Nope. No one seeks God when they are sinning is the contextual meaning. Thus since no one seeks God [when they are sinning] all men fall short of the glory of God. But you need to be able to read.

 

paul CLEAR that the natural man cannot receive the spiritual things of God, and that natural revelation saves NONE, but that when the Spirit comes unto a sinner, He opens them up to be able to discern the special revelations of the Bible and jesus!

 

Wow, talk about fiction. There is no foundation for asserting that Matthew 13 teaches such.

 

haven't you read that sound bible studying is to use parable to prove main points of doctrine, at exclusion of the Epistles?

 

I see where Matthew 13:1-26 does not teach fallen men seek God and receive the gospel with joy. As I said, Calvinists pretend they cannot read. Folks, just read it.

Notice the nullification tools, claiming a parable cannot be used for doctrine. However, they do not seem to be able to read the very words of Jesus that explained the parable, for they would say an explanation of a parable cannot be used for doctrine if it conflicts with Calvinism. LOL

Next I see Yeshua1 has once again posted that Paul teaches natural men cannot receive the spiritual things of God. This assertion has been demonstrated false numerous times, yet the Calvinist simply repeats the assertion and never addresses the rebuttal.

You see, Calvinists read "the spiritual things" as "all the spiritual things" of God, but that conflicts with Matthew 13:1-26 yet again. They simply add to scripture (all) and ignore that that addition creates a conflict with many other passages. If you read the entire passage, 1 Corinthians 2:14-3:3 you see the idea is that natural man cannot accept the spiritual things Paul refers to as "solid food" but natural men are able to understand the spiritual things Paul describes as "milk." How is it that this plain truth has escaped all Calvinists for 400 years? Any time a verse or passage conflicts with Calvinism they ignore it or nullify it. Note that both men of flesh and babes in Christ are not able to accept "solid food" but are able to accept "milk."

The simple truth is Calvinism is a mistaken view of scripture that conflicts with passage after passage and takes verse after verse out of context to create doctrine not actually present in scripture.

 

it was not paul, but an inspired author DID record in hebrews about spiritual milk and meat, but was rferencing oNLY Christians, just contarsting babes with matures!

Jesus showed in that parable that ONLY the 4th group actualled was saved by the Gospel!

 

Exactly. :thumbs: