ADD, ADHD, Panic Attacks... Spiritual or Physical problems? Or both?

[prophet]

You are speaking out of ignorance here.
The visa application I fill out does not require me to have any shots whatsoever. I took them on my doctor's advice, and on the advice of a government travel advisory for that particular nation. No one forced me to take any shots. It was entirely my choice to do so.

That is not true. That is like saying that the faith of that snake handler who recently died of deadly bite, required him to handle deadly snakes. Obviously he was wrong. But he did say something very similar if not exactly the same: "My faith requires me to handle snakes."
"No, it does not!" There is no scriptural evidence for that.

They might respect a person who uses their brains and technology that they have developed over the years. If a man has a heart attack, what then? liver failure? kidney failure? and other ailments untreatable by "faith", what then?
There was a church in northern Indiana that didn't believe in going to doctors either. People started dying--children that could have been easily treated. This got out and then they started facing lawsuits. Not a good testimony is it?
"Thou shalt not tempt the Lord thy God."

Sometimes he does; sometimes he doesn't. There are many sicknesses that there are no vaccines for. The blind man was blind for 40 years. Why? That the glory of God might be made manifest. God never promised to keep all sickness away from anyone or everyone. But he does expect us to use our common sense.

I was told, in Bible College, by the professor, that Visas required up to date shots.

You can call that ignorance, if you are correct, then I was told wrong.

I'll be wrong again.

Either way, you have no idea what my medical background is, and you have believed what you were told concerning immunizations.

If you were up on DNA recoding, you would understand that, just like in most prescription drugs, the risk outweighs the reward.

However did the Man survive the first 6,000 years, before immunizations?

Maybe God allowed for, and revoked epidemics?

Num 21:9
9 And Moses made a serpent of brass, and put it upon a pole, and it came to pass, that if a serpent had bitten any man, when he beheld the serpent of brass, he lived.

Ever seen that symbol? On a med. bracelet?

 

[DHK]

I was told, in Bible College, by the professor, that Visas required up to date shots.

Many that have good intentions are not always well informed.
Also countries may differ from one to another.

You can call that ignorance, if you are correct, then I was told wrong.

Your ignorance is about me and my personal situation. You should not assume what you do not know (the country I go to and its requirements for example).

Either way, you have no idea what my medical background is, and you have believed what you were told concerning immunizations.

If you were up on DNA recoding, you would understand that, just like in most prescription drugs, the risk outweighs the reward.

You are wrong. People die because they don't take the prescription drugs given to them by their doctors. I would be one of those people. That is all I have to say on that matter.
The only reason people get well from some of the diseases I encounter in various nations is because of the medicines that man has developed. Without the medication, one could do the cruel thing and leave the person to die. Put yourself in that place: Commit murder or give them medication.

However did the Man survive the first 6,000 years, before immunizations?

He didn't. London was almost wiped out by the Plague.
There is no cure for AIDS. Parts of Africa, where immorality is rampant, are being decimated.
When people came from European nations to settle America they came with their own diseases. They had immunity, but the native Americans didn't. Thousands were wiped out.
There have been large plagues of TB and Polio in the past killing hundreds if not thousands. Do a search. Yet nowadays these diseases have been largely contained and were once thought to be eradicated.

Man didn't survive. What they often thought were "natural causes" was probably cancer, failure of the liver, (cirrhosis due to drinking), lung cancer (smoking), etc. But they had no way of diagnosing these things.
The average age of man was only 45. Now it is close to 75-80.

Maybe God allowed for, and revoked epidemics?

God has allowed man to use his intellect to extend his time on this earth from an average lifespan of 45 to almost twice that. Immunizations have played an important role in that.

 

[DHK]

May you and yours enjoy good health, a long life, and in the world to come...life everlasting.

Some do enjoy a long life, but it is not always without trials and sickness.
Here is a good testimony for you to read by one of our members.
He has seen quite a few doctors and tasted of a good many medicines throughout the years:

http://www.baptistboard.com/showpost.php?p=2099462&postcount=141

 

[abcgrad94]

Lol. The immunized kids are sick frequently.

The OP isn't about immunizations, in fact, it's about conditions that aren't even treated with immunizations. You seem to infer that ailments such as ADD/ADHD and seizures are caused by such. It seems you are accusing parents of "unbelief" by getting vaccinations and that ADD is the punishment for that unbelief. Am I correct?

 

[prophet]

The OP isn't about immunizations, in fact, it's about conditions that aren't even treated with immunizations. You seem to infer that ailments such as ADD/ADHD and seizures are caused by such. It seems you are accusing parents of "unbelief" by getting vaccinations and that ADD is the punishment for that unbelief. Am I correct?

Not quite what I am saying.
Immunizations have been the cause of many maladies such as Autism, ADD, and ADHD.

I never implied that they are a punishment.

There is as much risk as reward inherent in immunizations, maybe more.

 

[DHK]

Not quite what I am saying.
Immunizations have been the cause of many maladies such as Autism, ADD, and ADHD.

There is as much risk as reward inherent in immunizations, maybe more.

Really?
Just suppose history could repeat itself, except today we have far more technology and advancements:

Disease played a huge part in the fall of the Aztec empire. This is what happened. After Cortes landed in Mexico, another Spanish army came from Cuba to make sure he followed orders. Cortes would have none of that, and went to fight them. In this new group was an African being held as a slave, who had smallpox, a very contagious disease.

One of Cortes' men contracted the disease. When they returned, the Aztec army quickly overwhelmed the Spanish, killing many and causing the rest to retreat. The soldier was killed, and, likely when his body was looted, an Aztec caught the disease.

Quickly, smallpox spread among the population. The people had no resistance and no idea how to treat it. In many cases, everyone in a house died. With no time to bury so many people, houses were simply demolished over the bodies.

During the siege of Tenochtitlán in 1520, the population was not only low on food but dying of smallpox. 25% of the empire is said to have been lost to the disease alone. But more importantly, the Aztec chain of command was in ruins. The emperor, Cuitláhuac, died of smallpox, along with many of the leaders of the army.

http://www.aztec-history.com/fall-of-the-aztec-empire.html

Today we have very effective vaccinations against smallpox. Suppose the Aztecs could have been vaccinated against the disease? It would have changed the course of history.

Suppose the Pakistani would allow their children to be vaccinated against Polio? They would, in essence, stop murdering their own children--genocide, as well as stop the spread of the disease to other nations, as already noted. These are actual documented facts.

Risk vs. reward?
life vs. death?