Jud 1:5 describes how some are saved from slavery and yet are destroyed because of unbelief without being saved into the promised rest. 2Pet 2 also describes such people who are washed and yet return to the mud. I cannot hold these to be saints but nonetheless, I cannot deny these have been saved/washed by God and yet fall away because of unbelief, not being saved into the promised rest. The difference is in God supernaturally and mercifully giving both the elect and non-elect new hearts but giving only the elect the new nature by rebirth.
You get THAT from THIS ...
[Jude 1:5 NASB]
5 Now I desire to remind you, though you know all things once for all, that the Lord, after saving a people out of the land of Egypt, subsequently destroyed those who did not believe.
God physically saved some out of Egypt and destroyed them because of a lack of faith (spiritual salvation). How does that suggest that God gives everyone a hew heart?
And do the people described below really sound like they have a new heart?
2 Peter 2
1 But false prophets also arose among the people, just as there will also be false teachers among you, who will secretly introduce destructive heresies, even denying the Master who bought them, bringing swift destruction upon themselves. 2 Many will follow their sensuality, and because of them the way of the truth will be maligned; 3 and in their greed they will exploit you with false words; their judgment from long ago is not idle, and their destruction is not asleep.
4 For if God did not spare angels when they sinned, but cast them into hell and committed them to pits of darkness, reserved for judgment; 5 and did not spare the ancient world, but preserved Noah, a [fn]preacher of righteousness, with seven others, when He brought a flood upon the world of the ungodly; 6 and if He condemned the cities of Sodom and Gomorrah to destruction by reducing them to ashes, having made them an example to those who would live ungodly lives thereafter; 7 and if He rescued righteous Lot, oppressed by the sensual conduct of unprincipled men 8 (for by what he saw and heard that righteous man, while living among them, felt his righteous soul tormented day after day by their lawless deeds), 9 then the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from [fn]temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment, 10 and especially those who [fn]indulge the flesh in its corrupt desires and despise authority.
Daring, self-willed, they do not tremble when they revile angelic [fn]majesties, 11 whereas angels who are greater in might and power do not bring a reviling judgment against them before the Lord. 12 But these, like unreasoning animals, born as creatures of instinct to be captured and killed, reviling where they have no knowledge, will in [fn]the destruction of those creatures also be destroyed, 13 suffering wrong as the wages of doing wrong. They count it a pleasure to revel in the daytime. They are stains and blemishes, reveling in their [fn]deceptions, as they carouse with you, 14 having eyes full of adultery that never cease from sin, enticing unstable souls, having a heart trained in greed, accursed children; 15 forsaking the right way, they have gone astray, having followed the way of Balaam, the son of Beor, who loved the wages of unrighteousness; 16 but he received a rebuke for his own transgression, for a mute donkey, speaking with a voice of a man, restrained the madness of the prophet.
17 These are springs without water and mists driven by a storm, for whom the [fn]black darkness has been reserved. 18 For speaking out arrogant words of vanity they entice by fleshly desires, by sensuality, those who barely escape from the ones who live in error, 19 promising them freedom while they themselves are slaves of corruption; for by what a man is overcome, by this he is enslaved. 20 For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. 21 For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment handed on to them. 22 [fn]It has happened to them according to the true proverb, “A DOG RETURNS TO ITS OWN VOMIT,” and, “A sow, after washing, returns to wallowing in the mire.”
- false teachers
- destructive heresies
- denying the Master
- greed
- exploit you with false words
- the Lord knows how to rescue the godly from temptation, and to keep the unrighteous under punishment for the day of judgment
- who indulge the flesh
- despise authority
- Daring, self-willed
- revile angelic majesties
- like unreasoning animals, born as creatures of instinct to be captured and killed
- count it a pleasure to revel in the daytime
- stains and blemishes
- eyes full of adultery that never cease from sin
- a heart trained in greed
- accursed children
- forsaking the right way
- springs without water and mists driven by a storm
- for whom the black darkness has been reserved
- speaking out arrogant words of vanity
- entice by fleshly desires, by sensuality
- slaves of corruption
These are the people who ...
20 For if, after they have escaped the defilements of the world by the knowledge of the Lord and Savior Jesus Christ, they are again entangled in them and are overcome, the last state has become worse for them than the first. 21 For it would be better for them not to have known the way of righteousness, than having known it, to turn away from the holy commandment handed on to them. 22 It has happened to them according to the true proverb, “A DOG RETURNS TO ITS OWN VOMIT,” and, “A sow, after washing, returns to wallowing in the mire.”
That sounds more like ...
- [Mat 13:19 NIV] 19 When anyone hears the message about the kingdom and does not understand it, the evil one comes and snatches away what was sown in their heart. This is the seed sown along the path.
- [Mar 4:15 NIV] 15 Some people are like seed along the path, where the word is sown. As soon as they hear it, Satan comes and takes away the word that was sown in them.
- [Luk 8:12 NIV] 12 Those along the path are the ones who hear, and then the devil comes and takes away the word from their hearts, so that they may not believe and be saved.
If it is as you read it, then there is a very abrupt change of WHO is being spoken of at the end of the chapter where it changes from the damnable "false teachers" that have been the subject of the chapter to "those who barely escape from the ones who live in error" (v.18). Do you have anything to indicate that this is the case?
