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Anabaptists, Catholics and Continuing Extra-Biblical Revelation

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Wesley Briggman

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thatbrian said:
What do Anabaptists and Roman Catholics have in common? Firstly, they both have frameworks of Continuing Extra-Biblical Revelation. Secondly, they both oppose the doctrine of sola fide, anding to faith an element of works-righteousness.

It's the continuing extra-biblical revelation which I'm interested in discussing here.

Is the canon sealed or not? That is the question.
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Act 2:17 KJV - And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
 
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Wesley Briggman said:
Act 2:17 KJV - And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
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To whom does that text speak of, and what does this practically look like?

The answer is right in the text.
 
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delizzle

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Wesley Briggman said:
Act 2:17 KJV - And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
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Someone having the spiritual gift of prophesy doesn't necessarily mean that whatever the person is professing should be canonized.
 
HankD

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The 66 books of the Bible is the revealed inspired complete word of God. Sealed - meaning no additions.
 
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delizzle said:
If it was authentic, why wouldn't you believe it was?
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How would you determine it was authentic? Handwriting analysis? DNA?
delizzle said:
Well, if it confirmed that Paul and his successors are appointed as the "Vicar of Christ", and that the "church" was actually the institution and not the members, it would confirm that the Roman Catholic Church and sacred tradition (the foundation of Catholic doctrine) to be equal to scripture. Thus, solar scripture would be false.
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Why would it confirm that Paul and his successors are the "Vicar of Christ" if he didn't do so in any other of his letters? Why do you expect the "found letter" of Paul to contradict his other letters?
 
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HankD said:
The 66 books of the Bible is the revealed inspired complete word of God. Sealed - meaning no additions.
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Yes, so that any utterance from a man preceded with, "God told me" should be promptly disregarded, unless of course, he is reading from one of those texts, that is.
 
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thatbrian said:
Yes, so that any utterance from a man preceded with, "God told me" should be promptly disregarded, unless of course, he is reading from one of those texts, that is.
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Which of course you would flatly deny ... in the case of actual Bible writers. IF we limited them to "reading from the texts already written before the NT" -- we would have "NO NT".

So you are arguing for a made-up rule that could not have been used by even one single NT saint.

As if that is "a good thing". Why do that?

Give me the Bible AND the words IN the Bible
 
HankD

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thatbrian said:
Yes, so that any utterance from a man preceded with, "God told me" should be promptly disregarded, unless of course, he is reading from one of those texts, that is.
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Interesting - Are you relating about an "answer to prayer" e.g. a young couple I knew a while back were praying for God concerning His will for their life.
They ended up staying in the states and going into the ministry (him) because they received their answer.

They were staunch calvinist.

Oh, I forgot! they did quote a scripture which they felt was their answer. Don't remember what it was.
They were in the College Group years ago where I was the Assistant Pastor.

They felt it was a definite message from the word.
 
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thatbrian

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HankD said:
Interesting - Are you relating about an "answer to prayer" e.g. a young couple I knew a while back were praying for God concerning His will for their life.
They ended up staying in the states and going into the ministry (him) because they received their answer.

They were staunch calvinist.
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They were obviously poor examples of Calvinists.
 
delizzle

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rlvaughn said:
How would you determine it was authentic? Handwriting analysis? DNA?
Why would it confirm that Paul and his successors are the "Vicar of Christ" if he didn't do so in any other of his letters? Why do you expect the "found letter" of Paul to contradict his other letters?
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It would be confirmed via the same process that the other 66 books were confirmed.
 
HankD

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thatbrian said:
They likely read a book that should have never been published: Radical.
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The wife was stronger than he. She would often question me (I was the College Group leader) concerning our local church doctrine (not Calvinistic - I was in those days).
She would not even accept the term "apparent free will".
 
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The wife was stronger than he. She would often question me (I was the College Group leader) concerning our local church doctrine (not Calvinistic - I was in those days).
She would not even accept the term "apparent free will".
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I wonder what you make of Calvinists going off to be missionaries.
 
HankD

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I wonder what you make of Calvinists going off to be missionaries.
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I don't meddle in their lives. If they are convinced they are in the will of God who am I to interfere?

My oldest son is C. He goes out on the street handing out tracts, I've gone with him on occasion - not anymore he and family moved to Ohio.
I never bothered to ask him why as a C he handed out tracts. We had a good time talking later about the people we spoke with, the excuses they made, the few who made a profession, etc.
 
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