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Antifa in Seattle - Things could get hot.

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Gold Dragon

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Seattle Mayor Jenny Durkan defends ‘Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone’ as ‘patriotic’

"Unfortunately, our President wants to tell a story about domestic terrorists who have a radical agenda and are promoting a conspiracy that fits his law-and-order initiatives,” Durkan said, according to Patch.

“It’s simply not true. Lawfully gathering and expressing First Amendment rights, demanding we do better as a society, and providing true equity for communities of color is not terrorism. It’s patriotism.”

Right-wing media says armed Antifa militants have seized part of Seattle. Local authorities say otherwise - CNN

But claims that bands of militant Antifa members are roving the Seattle streets appear to be grossly exaggerated in right-wing media. In fact, according to the Seattle mayor's office, city officials haven't seen any evidence to indicate armed members of Antifa are even on the ground.

"City officials have not interacted with 'armed antifa militants' at this site, but will continue to be on site to monitor the situation closely," Lori Patrick, a spokesperson for the Seattle mayor, told CNN Wednesday night.

Patrick said that police had heard reports of "armed individuals at demonstrations" on Monday night. But it was unclear what their affiliation was. In Washington state, it is legal to openly carry a gun.

"In the days since," Patrick said, "city employees, including representatives from the mayor's office, the Seattle fire chief, and our first responders have been on site continuously with unimpeded access working with organizers to ensure the area is safe for peaceful demonstrations, and that those who gathered have access to hygiene and sanitation services."

Does the 2nd amendment still matter?
 

church mouse guy

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Being on the other side of the world, you probably don't know that Trump has no legal authority in this situation and has not tried to do anything other than collect campaign donations as people laugh at the Democrats and their posturing. It turns out that the mayor of Seattle and the governor of Washington State are harboring terrorists and violent communists and refusing to protect innocent citizens trapped by these violent agitators by calling up the national guard to restore law and order. Look for Washington State to gain Republican voters.
 

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Unfortunately, at this point President Trump really has no say in the matter and he should just butt out. If these people in Washington State want to hang themselves in front of the American people, don't take the rope away from them. Everyone knows what is really happening there and it is a clear warning to the voters of America who want to see a stable society that lawlessness and anarchy is supported by elected Democrats. People should refrain from voting for them for that reason.
 

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There is no question that the Mayor has ceded this area of the city to these people by withdrawing the only lawful police operation that is allowed to operate in the city of Seattle, thus this area is now to be considered a "free zone" bereft of any lawful legal authority.

So you would have no problem if 5000 people of a differing political outlook descended on the newly created entity of "chaz" with their firearms and ousted the current occupiers of this portion of Seattle, right? They would simply want to have their own private "block party" as the Mayor so casually says the current occupies this area are doing. At this point the Mayor would have no say in the matter.
 
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church mouse guy

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Seattle, sadly, is no place to live anyway. It has widespread squalor, a total lack of compassion, and a long-standing refusal to enforce the law. It is no secret. Here is a television report from last year about what Seattle is really like. Their permissive attitude on narcotic addiction has resulted in their just letting addicts die in agony on their sidewalks.

 

Adonia

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Seattle, sadly, is no place to live anyway. It has widespread squalor, a total lack of compassion, and a long-standing refusal to enforce the law. It is no secret. Here is a television report from last year about what Seattle is really like. Their permissive attitude on narcotic addiction has resulted in their just letting addicts die in agony on their sidewalks.


This is very sad. I have been out there to Seattle several times in the past (about 15 years ago) and it was very nice place to visit. I certainly would not want to go there now
 

Scott Downey

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There is no question that the Mayor has ceded this area of the city to these people by withdrawing the only lawful police operation that is allowed to operate in the city of Seattle, thus this area is now to be considered a "free zone" bereft of any lawful legal authority.

So you would have no problem if 5000 people of a differing political outlook descended on the newly created entity of "chaz" with their firearms and ousted the current occupiers of this portion of Seattle, right? They would simply want to have their own private "block party" as the Mayor so casually says the current occupies this area are doing. At this point the Mayor would have no say in the matter.
The Seattle mayor has agreed to let them hold the area permanently as a cop free autonomous zone, (under control of the anarchists). This should enliven interest for Antifa and BLM to start taking over other areas in other cities. Setup enclaves where there is no police. The eventual end of this is a dissolution of the united states as it was into something like mini fiefdoms run by various petty lords ruling over small fragmented areas. Over time, small areas could join together, maybe carve out new states that are not part of the united states, which likely is illegal, against the laws of the USA. A new political order could develop. Thing is who is going to pay the bills for these people. How far will the rest of the US let it go.
 

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Reports: Antifa-Linked Armed Volunteers Join Seattle 'Autonomous Zone'



The Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone (CHAZ), — an area of six square blocks seized by a loose coalition of anarchist, Black Lives Matter, Antifa, and other far-left organizers — has declared itself independent of the local, state, and federal governments, and police have withdrawn from the area. The CHAZ has set up barricades with entry checkpoints, according to Seattle Police Assistant Chief Deanna Nollette.

Social media profiles of Antifa activists have posted photos from inside the AZ, with one viral post calling for “more people with guns.”

That need was quickly met, as The Puget Sound John Brown Gun Club (PSJBGC), a self-identified and widely recognized Antifa group, announced its presence at the CHAZ and said it is “providing safety patrols” via social media. Independent journalist Jake Hanrahan and a video from inside the CHAZ corroborate the statements from these purported PSJBGC accounts.


Reports: Antifa-Linked Armed Volunteers Join Seattle 'Autonomous Zone'
 

Benjamin

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If the police aren't allowed to do their job I suspect it will get get to the point that armed patriotic citizens will do it...then it will be the Antifa thugs who will be crying for want of police protection!
 

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If the police aren't allowed to do their job I suspect it will get get to the point that armed patriotic citizens will do it...then it will be the Antifa thugs who will be crying for want of police protection!

There is a lot of chatter from militia across the country right now
 

Scott Downey

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There is a lot of chatter from militia across the country right now
Seattle Police Chief: Cops 'Not Able to' Respond to Rapes, Robberies Due to Autonomous Zone
The wild wild west, armed vigilantism maybe since the police are so politically incorrect right now, the police say they are not allowed to do their job by the politics of the city council, and so on. Police were told to abandon the police precinct, but the mayor and police chief denies they told them to leave, I imagine there are many lies being told now, including by the MSM. The situation is an armed insurrection against the United States authority, I mean even they know it when they put up signs saying on entry to the autonomous zone that you are leaving the United States..
 

church mouse guy

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Seattle Police Chief: Cops 'Not Able to' Respond to Rapes, Robberies Due to Autonomous Zone
The wild wild west, armed vigilantism maybe since the police are so politically incorrect right now, the police say they are not allowed to do their job by the politics of the city council, and so on. Police were told to abandon the police precinct, but the mayor and police chief denies they told them to leave, I imagine there are many lies being told now, including by the MSM. The situation is an armed insurrection against the United States authority, I mean even they know it when they put up signs saying on entry to the autonomous zone that you are leaving the United States..

I feel very sorry for people trapped inside that rats' nest. I can't imagine why the people of Washington State tolerate that sort of nonsense. It is as if a motorcycle gang took over a town. I doubt if the communists have enough courage to try that stuff in a red state.
 

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this is all going on less than eighty miles away, thought about driving up to see what it's all about, then realized what a dumb idea that was.

Well, what can you say? The mayor is a big of a flake as her father was, only the police chief sounds sane. The mayor could air drop them some tofu, sprouts, maybe some plastic water bottles. Our governor is only an hour away but he is clueless as always.

I think this should just play out and Trump shouldn't send the troops without Inslee signing onto the idea - these leftists WANT the military to open fire on these people who would probably attack them on sight. This has to be nipped in the bud in other cities but maybe they don't have such a weak mayor and a city council member to invite them in.


This will help make the American Redoubt far more likely, the eastern part of the state looks better than ever to me, but it does have colder winters. And the movement to dismantle the 2A is dead dead dead, these armed "protestors" are exercising their 2A rights but they sure didn't support yours.
 

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The Chinese Communist Party released this virus biological warfare weapon and then proceeded to act militarily when they realized that people worldwide did not like their inferior medical supplies and their bad advice from the World Health Organization, which Xi Jinping controlled by donating so much money to Eritrean communist Tedros, the head of the organization. So Xi Jinping moved troops to the border with India, where I think that he has started border skirmishes. He seized the opportunity to smash all remaining freedoms away from Hong Kong and he probably had his operatives in the USA generously fund the communist antifa and the communist terrorists BLM. However, the problem for the Chinese Communist Party is that they need to dump Xi Jinping for his failure with the virus, for the fact that his military cannot win victories for him and is so disloyal that they cannot be trusted with weapons, and for the fact that no one in the world wants to do business with China anymore. China is in a downward spiral and Xi Jinping had to accept the Trump trade deal. It is too little too late--China will not be able to keep the West from shunning their products and their slave labor.
 

RighteousnessTemperance&

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Talk about sexist, this governor is that in spades:

A man who is totally incapable of governing should stay out of Washington state’s business. “Stoop” tweeting. https://t.co/O6i04qmZ9v

— Jay Inslee (@JayInslee) June 11, 2020

She rebukes Trump as if, but really the shoe’s on the other foot, thus it follows that “A [wo]man who is totally incapable of governing should stay out of Washington state’s business.” But no, that’s wrong, because the people of Washington deliberately elected such an incompetent. Ditto for the people of Seattle and their mayor. Maybe they all deserve each other. Maybe a lot of people will soon be ready to leave.
 

Gold Dragon

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Talk about sexist, this governor is that in spades:

A man who is totally incapable of governing should stay out of Washington state’s business. “Stoop” tweeting. https://t.co/O6i04qmZ9v

— Jay Inslee (@JayInslee) June 11, 2020

She rebukes Trump as if, but really the shoe’s on the other foot, thus it follows that “A [wo]man who is totally incapable of governing should stay out of Washington state’s business.” But no, that’s wrong, because the people of Washington deliberately elected such an incompetent. Ditto for the people of Seattle and their mayor. Maybe they all deserve each other. Maybe a lot of people will soon be ready to leave.

Or maybe he uses the word man because Trump is male. Unless you know something that I don’t about Trump having some gender crisis issues.

I’m assuming you know Jay Inslee is a dude and your ‘she’ was an attempt to be derogatory. But maybe I’m giving you too much credit.
 
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RighteousnessTemperance&

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Or maybe he uses the word man because Trump is male. Unless you know something that I don’t about Trump having some gender crisis issues.

I’m assuming you know Jay Inslee is a dude and your ‘she’ was an attempt to be derogatory. But maybe I’m giving you too much credit.

:oops: Thanks. Yes, you’re right, I garbled that one but good.

The mayor is the only actual woman here “who is totally incapable of governing [so] should stay out of Washington state’s business.” The governor is just a hypocrite for his sexist comments, not a woman, as far as I know, even if he… never mind.
 

Gold Dragon

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:oops: Thanks. Yes, you’re right, I garbled that one but good.

The mayor is the only actual woman here “who is totally incapable of governing [so] should stay out of Washington state’s business.” The governor is just a hypocrite for his sexist comments, not a woman, as far as I know, even if he… never mind.

Twister is a fun game.

As for Jenny Durkan, she has done a good job standing up to a bully with bad intelligence threatening to violate states rights and she has shown true leadership in diffusing a volatile situation. She had some of the barricades removed and is actively listening and supporting the protestors to maintain peace and order.

Police chief Best has walked back her previous statements and confirmed that the rumours that protestors were demanding identification checks and extorting local business that she made reference to in a previous press conference were fake rumours.

Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone becomes political flashpoint, as Durkan rebukes Trump’s message to ‘take back’ city

She said in a video address to officers, released earlier in the day, “the city had other plans for the building and relented to severe public pressure.”

Meantime, stories of demonstrators demanding identification from residents and extorting neighborhood businesses might have triggered the president’s attention. Those rumors took off when the Seattle Police Department on Wednesday described reports of such lawlessness.

But Best walked back the department’s information, which was reported widely by news media, including The Seattle Times.

That has not happened affirmatively,” Best said, adding that the police department had based earlier claims on anecdotal reports, including in the news and on social media. “We haven’t had any formal reports of this occurring.
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Best acknowledged that the movement had been largely peaceful and without serious incident, though there had been reports of vandalism, property damage and at least one fight.
 
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LOL, that's not what Best said at all:

“That has not happened affirmatively,” Best said, adding that the police department had based earlier claims on anecdotal reports, including in the news and on social media. “We haven’t had any formal reports of this occurring.”

No formal reports, that'll happen when the place is in anarchy.

Look, the gig is up Jenny - there is no rebellion in Seattle, this is just a trap for the WH or some scary militia group to overreact. Even Inslee is onto it. The Chief met with the little Antifa "warlord" and they were yukking it up.

Seattle, write 'em off. As for how we got stuck with Jay Inslee, look at the map:

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four years later:

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I am in one of those counties that flipped/
 

Adonia

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The Seattle mayor has agreed to let them hold the area permanently as a cop free autonomous zone, (under control of the anarchists). This should enliven interest for Antifa and BLM to start taking over other areas in other cities. Setup enclaves where there is no police. The eventual end of this is a dissolution of the united states as it was into something like mini fiefdoms run by various petty lords ruling over small fragmented areas. Over time, small areas could join together, maybe carve out new states that are not part of the united states, which likely is illegal, against the laws of the USA. A new political order could develop. Thing is who is going to pay the bills for these people. How far will the rest of the US let it go.

I think your assessment is far fetched. There was a report today that some Antifa type people were going to do the same thing in Nashville, Tn. The Governor of Tennessee said such a thing won't happen anywhere in his state. Others might also try this same nonsense in other localities, but if the authorities in charge are like those in Tennessee it won't happen in those places either. I know my Governor, Rick DeSantis would quickly put the kibosh on any of that kind of nonsense happening here in Florida, no matter how leftist the local Mayor was.
 
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