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Any Dispensationalist in the house?

vooks

Active Member
Are you and him stating that there is no personal AntiChrist then?
Am saying Dispensationalism tends to crazy absurdities namely revival of Levitical sacrifices post-Calvary

Start a thread on antichrist and invite me
 

vooks

Active Member
How does one spin away Dispensationalists shunning this thread?
Is it offensive or thought provoking?

Repeat, Ezekiel's /Third Temple did it for me, shattered my dispy bubble. I could no longer cling to a system that was full of absurdities
 

Yeshua1

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
How does one spin away Dispensationalists shunning this thread?
Is it offensive or thought provoking?

Repeat, Ezekiel's /Third Temple did it for me, shattered my dispy bubble. I could no longer cling to a system that was full of absurdities

Sop you have decided that the best approach is to not understand the Bible in a literal fashion, but as to spiritualize and allegorize the texts then?
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
Sop you have decided that the best approach is to not understand the Bible in a literal fashion, but as to spiritualize and allegorize the texts then?

You can't get a "parenthesis" Church from Scripture. It is the false invention of Darby's dispensationalism!
 

DHK

<b>Moderator</b>
You can't get a "parenthesis" Church from Scripture. It is the false invention of Darby's dispensationalism!

Can you please quote where anyone said anything about a "parenthesis" church?
How would you know if anyone here has any such belief? If you don't, don't assume they do. Ask them first.
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
Can you please quote where anyone said anything about a "parenthesis" church?
How would you know if anyone here has any such belief? If you don't, don't assume they do. Ask them first.

Post #64 in response to post #63!
 

Yeshua1

Well-Known Member
Site Supporter
You can't get a "parenthesis" Church from Scripture. It is the false invention of Darby's dispensationalism!

So you are saying that ALL of us who are Dispy in our beliefs would have that in common?

THAT would be like saying that all calvinists view the law and our realtionship to it now in the same way, and you know that is not the truth!
 

DHK

<b>Moderator</b>
You can't get a "parenthesis" Church from Scripture. It is the false invention of Darby's dispensationalism!
OR, this is your post #64.

This is Vook's #63
Sop you have decided that the best approach is to not understand the Bible in a literal fashion, but as to spiritualize and allegorize the texts then?
Concerning your above post to me, you bear false witness, where you claim someone else (a dispensationalist, not you) believes in the "parenthesis" church. Why do you continue to libel people? Vooks never said this as you falsely claim.
 

vooks

Active Member
Sop you have decided that the best approach is to not understand the Bible in a literal fashion, but as to spiritualize and allegorize the texts then?

Just walk me through what business bloody animal sacrifices and incense serve post Calvary
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
OR, this is your post #64.

This is Vook's #63

Concerning your above post to me, you bear false witness, where you claim someone else (a dispensationalist, not you) believes in the "parenthesis" church. Why do you continue to libel people? Vooks never said this as you falsely claim.

You need to check post#63 again. It wasn't vooks it was yeshua1.

Furthermore I libeled no one. You make a false accusation. I believe that is libel. I simply said the following in post#64:

You can't get a "parenthesis" Church from Scripture. It is the false invention of Darby's dispensationalism!

That is a true statement and you cannot prove otherwise since we have been down this road before!
 
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DHK

<b>Moderator</b>
You need to check post#63 again. It wasn't books it was yeshua1.

Furthermore I libeled no one. You make a false accusation. I believe that is libel. I simply said the following in post#64:



That is a true statement and you cannot prove otherwise since we have been down this road before!

As Yeshua already pointed out for you:
Where was that viewpoint given though in that response posting?
Just because the viewpoint is right in your viewpoint does not mean that others hold to it. I have challenged you before time and again. Show me one person on this board that admits to this doctrine.
You have failed to do so. Not one person. This is your invention--or more accurately, your repetition of another's doctrine wrongly labeled on all of us. Just because some other dispensationalists believe in it doesn't mean all do it.

Yes, it is either libelous or slanderous to label others with a belief that they have told you that they don't believe. Vooks never said he believed it; no one the board did, yet you persist in this. Not one person has ever admitted to believing in this doctrine. So ask people what they believe in before posting lies about them, falsely accusing them of things they don't believe in.
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
As Yeshua already pointed out for you:

Just because the viewpoint is right in your viewpoint does not mean that others hold to it. I have challenged you before time and again. Show me one person on this board that admits to this doctrine.
You have failed to do so. Not one person. This is your invention--or more accurately, your repetition of another's doctrine wrongly labeled on all of us. Just because some other dispensationalists believe in it doesn't mean all do it.

Yes, it is either libelous or slanderous to label others with a belief that they have told you that they don't believe. Vooks never said he believed it; no one the board did, yet you persist in this. Not one person has ever admitted to believing in this doctrine. So ask people what they believe in before posting lies about them, falsely accusing them of things they don't believe in.

As usual you are making false accusations. I have never accused anyone on this BB of believing in the "parenthesis" church. I would be surprised if anyone would admit to believing in such a heinous/heretical doctrine.

I have stated repeatedly what I said in post #64 above:

You can't get a "parenthesis" Church from Scripture. It is the false invention of Darby's dispensationalism!

I have also shown through direct quotes that such Dispensational Scholars as Chafer, Pentecost, Ironside, Ryrie and others teach a "parenthesis" Church. This false doctrine flows naturally from the false doctrine of the pre-trib "snatching away" of the Church and the false doctrine of a Jewish Millennium!.

So please, DHK, don't abuse your position as moderator and falsely accuse me!
 
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DHK

<b>Moderator</b>
As usual you are making false accusations. I have never accused anyone on this BB of believing in the "parenthesis" church. I would be surprised if anyone would admit to believing in such a heinous/heretical doctrine.

I have stated repeatedly what I said in post #64 above:
You post is an accusation, not a proof.

You can't get a "parenthesis" Church from Scripture. It is the false invention of Darby's dispensationalism!

--Vooks said nothing about a "parenthesis" Church.
You are accusing him by inferring that he did and does therefore believe in one. Stop the nonsense.

I have also shown through direct quotes that such Dispensational Scholars as Chafer, Pentecost, Ironside, Ryrie and others teach a "parenthesis" Church. This false doctrine flows naturally from the false doctrine of the pre-trib "snatching away" of the Church and the false doctrine of a Jewish Millennium!.

So please, DHK, don't abuse your position as moderator and falsely accuse me!
Don't abuse your privileges as a poster. Stop libelous and slanderous posts.

No one posted anything about a parenthesis church, but you continue to post as if they did. No one quoted from any of the men you listed. They probably don't care.
Vooks was't quoting them. Respond to what he said, not to what other men have said.
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
You post is an accusation, not a proof.

You can't get a "parenthesis" Church from Scripture. It is the false invention of Darby's dispensationalism!

--Vooks said nothing about a "parenthesis" Church.
You are accusing him by inferring that he did and does therefore believe in one. Stop the nonsense.
My post #64 was in response to Post#63 by yeshua1. So get your facts straight DHK. I would remind you that you are a moderator, that doesn't make you a dictator, whether you think so or not!


Don't abuse your privileges as a poster. Stop libelous and slanderous posts.
I said nothing libelous or slanderous. I simply told the truth; and the truth about Dispensationalism is offensive to some. I simply said and I repeat for your edification:
You can't get a "parenthesis" Church from Scripture. It is the false invention of Darby's dispensationalism!

Show me where I posted anything libelous or slanderous or stop making the accusation!

No one posted anything about a parenthesis church, but you continue to post as if they did. No one quoted from any of the men you listed. They probably don't care.
Vooks was't quoting them. Respond to what he said, not to what other men have said.
Then you respond to what I said and I said nothing libelous.

As for vooks you should take a look at the OP:
Got a couple of questions for you. Hands up
And then the questions he asks.
Ezekiel's temple.
1. Will the megastructure be rebuilt?
2. What purpose does it serve post-cross?

I gave up on Dispensationalism because I have never found any convincing reason why we should revert to Moses long after Christ redeemed us from under the Law.

The dispensational doctrine of the rebuilt temple and the reinstated offering of blood sacrifices reinforces the doctrine of the "parenthesis" Church and makes the Cross of Jesus Christ of none affect! It is a fact that early dispensationalism as presented in the original Scofield Bible indicated that Salvation was by means other than the Cross!

DHK, It is well known by those who regularly participate on this BB that you would like nothing better than to ban me. In doing so you will confirm what many people believe and some may simply ban themselves!
 

DHK

<b>Moderator</b>
My post #64 was in response to Post#63 by yeshua1. So get your facts straight DHK. I would remind you that you are a moderator, that doesn't make you a dictator, whether you think so or not!
Yes, you are right. Post #63 was by Yeshua who was quoting Vooks. Neither one of them said anything of a "parenthesis" church. Post #63 says:

Sop you have decided that the best approach is to not understand the Bible in a literal fashion, but as to spiritualize and allegorize the texts then?
--When you respond in an accusatory manner with believing in the "parenthesis" church, which was not even mentioned, then it is libelous.
a : a written or oral defamatory statement or representation that conveys an unjustly unfavorable impression
http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/libel
--None of us believe in the "parenthesis church," so why libelously and continuously bring it up?
I said nothing libelous or slanderous. I simply told the truth; and the truth about Dispensationalism is offensive to some. I simply said and I repeat for your edification:
When you attribute things that we don't believe to us, yes you do. Read the definition above. It is a misrepresentation. And that is wrong.
Show me where I posted anything libelous or slanderous or stop making the accusation!
Every time you misrepresent our beliefs.

The dispensational doctrine of the rebuilt temple and the reinstated offering of blood sacrifices reinforces the doctrine of the "parenthesis" Church and makes the Cross of Jesus Christ of none affect! It is a fact that early dispensationalism as presented in the original Scofield Bible indicated that Salvation was by means other than the Cross!
All of the above is your opinion. I may agree with some, part or none. Apparently you don't know. You just make assumptions on what I know because you know I am a dispensationalist, but that is all you know. You think we all believe the same thing. You are wrong.

I was reading some dispensational material from John Wesley. Does that surprise you, seeing that he lived about 100 years before Darby.

DHK, It is well known by those who regularly participate on this BB that you would like nothing better than to ban me.

That is a lie.
Whoever told you that is lying and you shouldn't be listening to gossip.
How would they know such things? Can they read my mind? Of course not.
In doing so you will confirm what many people believe and some may simply ban themselves!
I really have no idea what you are talking about.
Listen to the Word, and not the gossip of others.
 

OldRegular

Well-Known Member
DHK

That you find the following statement libelous does not speak well of Dispensational doctrine because it is the doctrine of Classic Dispensational Scholars as Chafer, Pentecost, Ironside, Ryrie and others.

You can't get a "parenthesis" Church from Scripture. It is the false invention of Darby's dispensationalism!

Thanks be to God! Progressive Dispensationalists are beginning to see the error of Classic Dispensationalism invented by John Nelson Darby.
 

vooks

Active Member
Over 60 posts later and no Dispensationalist worth their salt is interested in answering my questions!

Are they ASHAMED of their gospel of bloody sacrifices post Calvary?
 
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