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Any Non-Baptist Christians here?

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37818

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Easy-believism teaches conversion through faith alone. It denies that repentance and surrender to Christ are components of salvation.
Well I believe in an easy believism, and in it a repentance always precedes the faith. And faith "alone" means not obtaining eternal life through any kind of works. And works (Ephesians 2:10) should follow already being saved through faith without works (Ephesians 2:8-9).
 

utilyan

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How? By giving them a false gospel that denies the sufficiency of Christ? By telling them they can expiate their own sins in the mythical land of Purgatory? By telling them to pray to dead people?
With fire hoses and a few ladders, maybe some rope. Look buddy if you were the ONLY soul in hell. The whole universe can tell me don't waste your time, can't do nothing. I'm coming to get you.

I picked up curse from God called Loving Everyone. If I fail there is someone more loving then I am.
 

utilyan

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Sounds like nothing as changed, since they also banned others I know, like BobRyan, OneBaptism and others (baptists on this board are actually afraid of Seventh-day Adventists and the truth they share, even having a moratorium on Seventh-day Adventists signing up altogether).
At least you get called a Christian.


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Adonia

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Is there such a thing? :)

Yes, the Christians of today who follow Christian orthodoxy and then there are others who are members of various Christian sects like the Baptist faith tradition who are also considered as being Christians.
 

Calminian

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Yes, the Christians of today who follow Christian orthodoxy and then there are others who are members of various Christian sects like the Baptist faith tradition who are also considered as being Christians.

Thank you. Amazingly informative.
 

utilyan

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I get "called" a lot of things.
I think you are a brother in Jesus Christ

You think the ones that don't call us christian are bad? Wait till you meet folks who swear I am unwittingly in league with the Devil, worship goddess, pagan suns, and statues.
 

Alofa Atu

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I think you are a brother in Jesus Christ
I desire you to be as I am, and knowing what I know.

You think the ones that don't call us christian are bad?
You would have to define 'us'. Do you mean the few Roman Catholics that are on this forum, or all Catholics in general?

If you mean, just the few on this forum (such as yourself, Adonia, Walter, etc), I know you are Catholic, but that does not always equate to Christian, as I said earlier. I see that each of you (as stated) reject light, truth and cling to a false (Peter as 'Pope' thing) history. Do not think I will defend Romanism, nor be friend to it - ever (I am long done with Roman Catholicism). We are not allies. We are enemies, on opposing teams. That doesn't mean that I cannot speak kindly, yet in truth.

If you mean, that all Catholics should be called Christians, I would disagree, as I said earlier, even as all who identify as "Baptists", " Methodists", etc., and even especially "Seventh-day Adventists" are not Christians, though they profess it.

Wait till you meet folks who swear I am unwittingly in league with the Devil, worship goddess, pagan suns, and statues.
Oh, I do not think you are "unwittingly".
 

Wesley Briggman

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I have never said (nor does the Catholic Church teach) you can work your way to eternal life. As a Baptist, I repented of my sins and trusted. the shed blood of Jesus for salvation. Catholism is NOT at odds with that.

The Catholic Church's doctrine endorses infant baptism as a means of salvation. No repentance required. Are you in agreement with that teaching?
 

Hollow Man

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utilyan said:
With fire hoses and a few ladders, maybe some rope. Look buddy if you were the ONLY soul in hell. The whole universe can tell me don't waste your time, can't do nothing. I'm coming to get you.

So, Jesus couldn't do it, but you think you can?
 

Walter

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The Catholic Church's doctrine endorses infant baptism as a means of salvation. No repentance required. Are you in agreement with that teaching?

I hold to the same belief as NT Wright on infant baptism. I came to that position before I became a Catholic. Would you consider NT Wright a non-Christian because of his belief in baptismal regeneration? I notice in the 'Baptist Only Forums' he seems to be held in high esteem by many.. Btw, he also believes in The Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist and does an excellent job defending it. NT Wright probably Hell bound?
 

Wesley Briggman

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I hold to the same belief as NT Wright on infant baptism. I came to that position before I became a Catholic. Would you consider NT Wright a non-Christian because of his belief in baptismal regeneration? I notice in the 'Baptist Only Forums' he seems to be held in high esteem by many.. Btw, he also believes in The Real Presence of Christ in the Eucharist and does an excellent job defending it. NT Wright probably Hell bound?

I am not familiar with NT Wright and do not intend to research his theology.

My question quoted here "
The Catholic Church's doctrine endorses infant baptism as a means of salvation. No repentance required. Are you in agreement with that teaching?
" deserves a yes or no answer with an explanation supporting your position.

Please answer my question.
 

Walter

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I am not familiar with NT Wright and do not intend to research his theology.

My question quoted here "" deserves a yes or no answer with an explanation supporting your position.

Please answer my question.

If you aren't willing to take the time to look at what one of the leading non-Catholic theologians position is on infant baptism, then I am not willing to explain what Lutheran, Methodist, Anglicans, UCC and many other non-Catholic and Catholic Christians believe about infant baptism.Here is one non-Catholic position I would agree with.

Lutheranism affirms baptismal regeneration, believing that baptism is a means of grace, instead of human works, through which God creates and strengthens faith. Lutherans believe that the Bible shows how Christians are connected through baptism with Christ and the new life Christ's work gives us.
 
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Salty

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Thanks Salty, if a grouping of autonomous churches contains some with their candlestick removed, that does not condemn every church within the group, and certainly not every believer in every church. Historically the ABC were abolitionists, separating from the advocates of slavery. I believe we will see some of them in heaven.

Van - You are absolutely right - but what I described is becoming the norm- no longer the execption. There is least one pastor in the ABC local association - very Evangelical -but.....
 
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