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Archangel Michael being the Angel of Jehovah.

37818

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Compare ASV Zechriah 3:1-2, And he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of Jehovah, and Satan standing at his right hand to be his adversary. And Jehovah said unto Satan, Jehovah rebuke thee, O Satan; yea, Jehovah that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire. . . .

ASV Jude 1:9, But Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing judgment, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

[ John Gill, 'Yet Michael the archangel,.... By whom is meant, not a created angel, but an eternal one, the Lord Jesus Christ; as appears from his name Michael, which signifies, "who is as God": and who is as God, or like unto him, but the Son of God, who is equal with God? and from his character as the archangel, or Prince of angels, for Christ is the head of all principality and power; and from what is elsewhere said of Michael, as that he is the great Prince, and on the side of the people of God, and to have angels under him, and at his command, Da 10:21. . . . .']
 

Ben1445

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Compare ASV Zechriah 3:1-2, And he showed me Joshua the high priest
(being number one. Jesus.)
standing before the angel of Jehovah,
(being number two not Jesus)
and Satan standing at his right hand to be his adversary. And Jehovah said unto Satan, Jehovah rebuke thee, O Satan; yea, Jehovah that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire. . . .

ASV Jude 1:9, But Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing judgment, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.
And if Jesus is the Lord, why does He need to pass the responsibility of the rebuke of Satan over to Himself, to be given to Satan by Himself?

Excellent Scripture.
Gill has some good material at times. This is not one of them.
 

Oseas3

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Compare ASV Zechriah 3:1-2, And he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of Jehovah, and Satan standing at his right hand to be his adversary. And Jehovah said unto Satan, Jehovah rebuke thee, O Satan; yea, Jehovah that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire. . . .

ASV Jude 1:9, But Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing judgment, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

[ John Gill, 'Yet Michael the archangel,.... By whom is meant, not a created angel, but an eternal one, the Lord Jesus Christ; as appears from his name Michael, which signifies, "who is as God": and who is as God, or like unto him, but the Son of God, who is equal with God? and from his character as the archangel, or Prince of angels, for Christ is the head of all principality and power; and from what is elsewhere said of Michael, as that he is the great Prince, and on the side of the people of God, and to have angels under him, and at his command, Da 10:21. . . . .']
Revelation 1:1-20
1
The Revelation of JESUS Christ, which GOD gave unto Him, to shew unto His servants things which must shortly come to pass; and JESUS sent and signified it by His ANGEL unto His servant John->(In fact an Archangel - Michael):
2 Who bare record of the Word of GOD, and of the testimony of JESUS Christ, and of all things that he saw.
9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of JESUS Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the Word of GOD, and for the testimony of JESUS Christ.
10...and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

Revelation 22:8-9 and 16-17
8
And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel (archangel) which shewed me these things.
9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets(the true preachers of the Word of GOD), and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship GOD.
-> verses 16&17:->
16 The Lord JESUS said:-> I
JESUS have sent mine angel(archangel) to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

1Thessalonians 4:16:->16 For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the Archangel(Michael-Revelation 12:7-12, take a look, and Revelation 11:15-18, and Revelation 20:1-4), and with the trump of GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:->(Daniel 12:1-3 combined with Isaiah 26:19-21, take a look).

In the other hand
, the esoteric / spiritist and kabbalistic Jehovah is the FATHER of the Jews->John 8:44 combined with Revelation 12:9.
By the way, speaking of the satanic Jehovah and his angels or messengers, Paul apostle warned, saying: 2Corinthians 11:13-15:->

13
For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. (the Word of GOD is light-Pslms 119:105)
15
Therefore it is no great thing if his MINISTERS (MINISTERS OF THE DEVIL) also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. ->Revelation 12:7-12 combined with Revelation 16:13-15, take a look).

 

37818

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Revelation 1:1-20
1
The Revelation of JESUS Christ, which GOD gave unto Him, to shew unto His servants things which must shortly come to pass; and JESUS sent and signified it by His ANGEL unto His servant John->(In fact an Archangel - Michael):
2 Who bare record of the Word of GOD, and of the testimony of JESUS Christ, and of all things that he saw.
9 I John, who also am your brother, and companion in tribulation, and in the kingdom and patience of JESUS Christ, was in the isle that is called Patmos, for the Word of GOD, and for the testimony of JESUS Christ.
10...and heard behind me a great voice, as of a trumpet,
12 And I turned to see the voice that spake with me. And being turned, I saw seven golden candlesticks;
13 And in the midst of the seven candlesticks one like unto the Son of man, clothed with a garment down to the foot, and girt about the paps with a golden girdle.

Revelation 22:8-9 and 16-17
8
And I John saw these things, and heard them. And when I had heard and seen, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel (archangel) which shewed me these things.
9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets(the true preachers of the Word of GOD), and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship GOD.
-> verses 16&17:->
16 The Lord JESUS said:-> I
JESUS have sent mine angel(archangel) to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David, and the bright and morning star.
17 And the Spirit and the bride say, Come. And let him that heareth say, Come. And let him that is athirst come. And whosoever will, let him take the water of life freely.

1Thessalonians 4:16:->16 For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the Archangel(Michael-Revelation 12:7-12, take a look, and Revelation 11:15-18, and Revelation 20:1-4), and with the trump of GOD: and the dead in Christ shall rise first:->(Daniel 12:1-3 combined with Isaiah 26:19-21, take a look).

In the other hand
, the esoteric / spiritist and kabbalistic Jehovah is the FATHER of the Jews->John 8:44 combined with Revelation 12:9.
By the way, speaking of the satanic Jehovah and his angels or messengers, Paul apostle warned, saying: 2Corinthians 11:13-15:->

13
For such are false apostles, deceitful workers, transforming themselves into the apostles of Christ.
14 And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light. (the Word of GOD is light-Pslms 119:105)
15
Therefore it is no great thing if his MINISTERS (MINISTERS OF THE DEVIL) also be transformed as the ministers of righteousness; whose end shall be according to their works. ->Revelation 12:7-12 combined with Revelation 16:13-15, take a look).

Confusing explainations.
 

Oseas3

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Confusing explainations.
What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD. Remember 1Corinthians 1:27-30:
27 GOD hath chosen the foolish things of the world to CONFOUND the wise; and GOD hath chosen the weak things of the world to CONFOUND the things which are mighty;
28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath GOD chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
29 That no flesh should glory in His presence.

The Word is GOD,
GOD Himself,
GOD Father,
Self-executing,
Self-executable,
Father of my Lord JESUS Christ,->the Word made flesh in One, and our Father,
GOD is Life,
Eternal Life,
the bread of Life,
the bread of heaven,
the heavenly manna,
and the bread of angels,

with whom we must render an account, understand? ->1Corinthians 10:1-12 combined with Luke 20:35-36, take a look.

1John 2:28-29:

->
28 And now, little children, abide in Him; that, when He shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before Him at His coming.
29 If ye know that He is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of Him.
 

37818

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What matters and prevails is the Word of GOD. Remember 1Corinthians 1:27-30:
27 GOD hath chosen the foolish things of the world to CONFOUND the wise; and GOD hath chosen the weak things of the world to CONFOUND the things which are mighty;
28 And base things of the world, and things which are despised, hath GOD chosen, yea, and things which are not, to bring to nought things that are:
29 That no flesh should glory in His presence.

The Word is GOD,
GOD Himself,
GOD Father,
Self-executing,
Self-executable,
Father of my Lord JESUS Christ,->the Word made flesh in One, and our Father,
GOD is Life,
Eternal Life,
the bread of Life,
the bread of heaven,
the heavenly manna,
and the bread of angels,

with whom we must render an account, understand? ->1Corinthians 10:1-12 combined with Luke 20:35-36, take a look.

1John 2:28-29:

->
28 And now, little children, abide in Him; that, when He shall appear, we may have confidence, and not be ashamed before Him at His coming.
29 If ye know that He is righteous, ye know that every one that doeth righteousness is born of Him.
All good stuff. But fail to address the topic of this thread.
 

JesusFan

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Compare ASV Zechriah 3:1-2, And he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of Jehovah, and Satan standing at his right hand to be his adversary. And Jehovah said unto Satan, Jehovah rebuke thee, O Satan; yea, Jehovah that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire. . . .

ASV Jude 1:9, But Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing judgment, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

[ John Gill, 'Yet Michael the archangel,.... By whom is meant, not a created angel, but an eternal one, the Lord Jesus Christ; as appears from his name Michael, which signifies, "who is as God": and who is as God, or like unto him, but the Son of God, who is equal with God? and from his character as the archangel, or Prince of angels, for Christ is the head of all principality and power; and from what is elsewhere said of Michael, as that he is the great Prince, and on the side of the people of God, and to have angels under him, and at his command, Da 10:21. . . . .']
Very wrong, as Jesus is God, Michael the archangel
 

37818

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Jesus is very God, cannot be Michael, as Michael mere arch angel
Why? If His Name Michael means He is.
like God. Remember John 8:24.
Zachriah 3:2, And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, . . .
Jude 1:9, . . . Yet Michael the archangel, . . . said, The Lord rebuke thee.
 
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37818

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Greek cross reference
LXX, Zachriah 3:2, . . . επιτιμησαι κυριος εν σοι . . .
Byz, Jude 1:9, . . . επιτιμησαι σοι κυριος . . .
 

Oseas3

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All good stuff. But fail to address the topic of this thread..
What is written in the topic is not true; To say -> Archangel Michael being the Angel of Jehovah <- is a devilish tares. Michael never was the angel of the Devil named Jehovah by the esoteric and kabbalistic Jews. Inspired by the SPIRIT OF DEVIL, THEIR FATHER, they introduced the SATANIC NAME JEHOVAH in the Old Testament NOT by the Holy Spirit, OF COURSE, but by the SPIRIT OF DEVIL, the father of the exoteric and kabbalistic Jews.

JESUS came unto His own, and His own received Him not, and JESUS said to the Jews.-> John 8:44(combined with Matthew 23:33-35, take a look):->Ye are of your father the Devil(the MAN of sin, son of perdition), and the lusts of your father ye will do. He was a murderer from the beginning, and abode not in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaketh a lie, he speaketh of his own: for he is a liar, and the father of it.

Archangel MICHAEL He has nothing to do with the DEMONIC JEHOVAH introduced in the Hebrew Bible by the spirit of Devil, not by the Holy Spirit of GOD, the Father-John 4:24. ; Michael is a fellowservant of the true believers:-> Revelation 22:8-11.
8 And I John..when I had heard and seen these things, I fell down to worship before the feet of the angel which shewed me these things.
9 Then saith he unto me, See thou do it not: for I am thy fellowservant, and of thy brethren the prophets, and of them which keep the sayings of this book: worship GOD.

10 And he saith unto me, Seal not the sayings of the prophecy of this book: for the time is at hand.

11 He that is unjust, let him be unjust still: and he which is filthy, let him be filthy still: and he that is righteous, let him be righteous still: and he that is holy, let him be holy still.

Revelation 12:

3 And there appeared another wonder in heaven; and behold a great RED DRAGON, (Dragon? Revelation 13:11, a false lamb, a false messiah as JESUS said:-John 5:43-47, take a look) having seven heads and ten horns, and seven crowns upon his heads.

7 And there was war in heaven: Michael and his angels(messengers) fought against the dragon; and the dragon fought and his angels(messengers),

8 And prevailed not; neither was their place found any more in heaven.

9 And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he WAS CAST out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.

10 And I heard a loud voice saying in heaven, Now is come salvation, and strength, and the kingdom of our GOD, and the power of his Christ: for the accuser of our brethren is cast down, which accused them before our GOD day and night.

11 And they(Michael and his messengers) overcame him(overcame the red Dragon and his messengers
) by the blood of the Lamb, and by the Word of their testimony; and they loved not their lives unto the death.

12 Therefore rejoice, ye heavens, and ye that dwell in them. Woe to the inhabiters of the earth and of the sea! for the devil is come down unto you, having great wrath, because he knoweth that he hath but a short time.

Revelation 16:13-15

13 And I saw three unclean spirits like frogs come out of the mouth of the dragon, and out of the mouth of the beast, and out of the mouth of the false prophet.

14 For they are the spirits of devils, working miracles, which go forth unto the kings of the earth and of the whole world, to gather them to the battle of that great day of God Almighty.

15 Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame.
 
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Oseas3

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Jesus is very God, cannot be Michael, as Michael mere arch angel
Yes, and it is Michael who comes before JESUS's coming: Daniel 12:1-3 combined with 1 Thessalonians 4:16:-> 16 For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the VOICE of the archangel(that is Michael), and with the trump of GOD(1CORINTHIANS 15:51-52 COMBINED WITH Revelation 11:15-18): and the dead in Christ shall rise first(ISAIAH 26:19-21 combined with Daniel 12:1-3 and 10-12, take a look). Be prepared or else get ready - Matthew 25:6-10.
 
Compare ASV Zechriah 3:1-2, And he showed me Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of Jehovah, and Satan standing at his right hand to be his adversary. And Jehovah said unto Satan, Jehovah rebuke thee, O Satan; yea, Jehovah that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire. . . .

ASV Jude 1:9, But Michael the archangel, when contending with the devil he disputed about the body of Moses, durst not bring against him a railing judgment, but said, The Lord rebuke thee.

[ John Gill, 'Yet Michael the archangel,.... By whom is meant, not a created angel, but an eternal one, the Lord Jesus Christ; as appears from his name Michael, which signifies, "who is as God": and who is as God, or like unto him, but the Son of God, who is equal with God? and from his character as the archangel, or Prince of angels, for Christ is the head of all principality and power; and from what is elsewhere said of Michael, as that he is the great Prince, and on the side of the people of God, and to have angels under him, and at his command, Da 10:21. . . . .']
Yes, an excellent book on the matter is "Michael the Archangel - Who is like unto God? - The Highest Messenger" - Many such citations are found within throughout the centuries - Michael The Archangel Who Is Like Unto God The Highest Messenger (BOOK) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
 
Jesus is very God, cannot be Michael, as Michael mere arch angel
That position, cannot hold water, scripturally, logically, or definitonally.

Jesus is also "man", even the "son of man", and being so does not exclude Him also being "God" (Deity).
Jesus is also "king", even the "KING OF KINGS", and being so does not exclude Him from also being the highest Messenger / Apostle of the Father.

The word "angel" in Hebrew ('mal'ak') or koine Greek ('angelos') simply means the 'office / position of messenger, or one with a message, or bearing a message, an ambassador, speaker for another". It has nothing to say of nature in its definition. The word is like the words "king", "priest", "prophet", &c. Jesus is all of those, and being so, does not exlcude Him from also being "God" (Deity).

The name "Michael" carries the definition of "Who is like unto God?", and the answer is only the Person / Being of the Son, who is in the "express image" of the Father's Person / Being. The Son of the Father has many names, titles, positions, none of which are exclusive to another, but are all complimentary to Himself. He is Emmanuel. He is Jesus. He is Israel. He is Rose of Sharon, &c., &c. He is both "God" and "servant", Alpha & Omega, &c.
 

Oseas3

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Yes, an excellent book on the matter is "Michael the Archangel - Who is like unto God? - The Highest Messenger" - Many such citations are found within throughout the centuries - Michael The Archangel Who Is Like Unto God The Highest Messenger (BOOK) : Free Download, Borrow, and Streaming : Internet Archive
Why is Michael like unto God? - the Highest Messenger? Revelation 11:4 says he is the God of the earth, and he fights against the dragon, the Beast of earth-Revelation 13:11, and his messengers, and against the main partner of the dragon, that is the Beast of sea-Revelation 13:1-10, and in righteousness he does Judge and make WAR by a SHARP Sword, that is the Word of GOD, the Old and New Testaments, in fact the Bible, two witnesses(and also two wings->Isaiah 60:8 combined with Revelation 12:14, take a look)-> that with it, with the sharp Sword(Hebrews 4:12-13), he should SMITE the NATIONS-> (Revelation 11:15-18, take a look): and he shall rule them with a ROD OF IRON->Revelation 2:26-29: and he treadeth the winepress of the fierceness and WRATH of Almighty God.-> Daniel 12:1-3 combined with Revelation 11:18, take a look. In fact, he shall wound the Beast of sea with his sharp Sword, as is written in Revelation 13:14, take a look.

Speaking of Michael, He was with Moses on Mount Sinai, in the Exodus toward the Red Sea, and with Joshua in Jericho, and then on several occasions during the Old Testament period. By the way, this matter is one of the deep things of GOD->1Corinthians 2:10, take a look.


Jeremiah prophesied about the coming of Michael before JESUS's coming: Jeremiah 49:14->14 I have heard a rumour from the Lord, and an ambassador is sent unto the heathen, saying, Gather ye together, and come against her, and rise up to the battle.

Obadiah also prophesied about |MIchael:- Obadiah 1:1->Thus saith the Lord God concerning Edom(Edom means red->today refers to the dragon- the red dragon); -> We have heard a rumour from the Lord, and an ambassador is sent among the heathen, Arise ye, and let us rise up against her in battle. -. The battle is/will be against the false messiah of the current Israel-Revelation 13:11, the dragon, the man of sin, son of perdition- 2Thessalonians 2;3-4, in fact the little horn(Daniel 7:8-12)-> the expression "against her in battle", means against the great city spiritually called Sodom and Egypt where our Lord was crucified, in fact against the little and rebel Israel.

Be prepared or else get ready


---> "Michael the Archangel - Who is like unto God? - The Highest Messenger" -> He is the younger brother of JESUS. Isaiah prophesied about the God of the earth - Michael ->Isaiah 7:14-16, take a look, combined with Revelation 11:4, he is our fellowservant, understand? ->Revelation 22:8-9.
 
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Oseas3

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Still speaking of Michael, looking at recent events and speaking of Trump, Xi Jinping, and Putin (these are the main ones currently), and speaking of all rulers of nations like them, what I / we must announce to the world through the Word of GOD is that:
-> all PROJECTS they intend to build upon what they have potentially already built gigantically in the world will be frustrated;
-> yes, what I / wemust announce to the WORLD as a whole through the Word of GOD is that THE HOPE OF THE HYPOCRITES WILL BE FRUSTRATED;->Job 8:13-14:-> 13... the hypocrite's hope shall perish:
14 Whose hope shall be cut off (frustrated), and whose trust shall be a spider's web. ->says the Lord by His Word, the Word is GOD, GOD Himself, Self-Executable, undersdtand?
-> By the way, the hypocrites in heart heap WRATH for themselves, understand?

Job 36:12-14
13 But the hypocrites in heart heap up WRATH: ... 14 They die...and their life is among the unclean. 12 ... they shall perish by the Sword(by the Word of GOD-Hebrews 4:12-13), and they shall die without knowledge. -> Remember, our Lord JESUS left crystal clear, saying: -> Fear not them which kill the body, but are not able to kill the soul: but rather fear GOD which is able to destroy both SOUL and BODY in hell. ->(Eternal perdition-Daniel 12:1-3, among many other biblical references).--> Psalms 9:17->The wicked shall be TURNED into hell, and all the NATIONS that forget GOD.

Psalms 9
9 I will praise thee, O Lord, with my whole heart; I will shew forth all thy marvellous works.
2 I will be glad and rejoice in thee: I will sing praise to thy name, O thou most High.
3 When mine enemies are turned back, they shall fall and perish at thy presence.
4 For thou hast maintained my right and my cause; thou satest in the throne judging right.
5 Thou hast rebuked the heathen, thou hast destroyed the wicked, thou hast put out their name for ever and ever.
6 O thou enemy, destructions are come to a perpetual end: and thou hast destroyed cities; their memorial is perished with them.
7 But the Lord shall endure for ever: he hath prepared his throne for judgment.
8 And he shall judge the world in righteousness, he shall minister judgment to the people in uprightness.
9 The Lord also will be a refuge for the oppressed, a refuge in times of trouble.
10 And they that know thy name will put their trust in thee: for thou, Lord, hast not forsaken them that seek thee.
11 Sing praises to the Lord, which dwelleth in Zion: declare among the people his doings.
12 When he maketh inquisition for blood, he remembereth them: he forgetteth not the cry of the humble.
13 Have mercy upon me, O Lord; consider my trouble which I suffer of them that hate me, thou that liftest me up from the gates of death:
14 That I may shew forth all thy praise in the gates of the daughter of Zion: I will rejoice in thy salvation.
15 The heathen are sunk down in the pit that they made: in the net which they hid is their own foot taken.
16 The Lord is known by the judgment which he executeth: the wicked is snared in the work of his own hands. Higgaion. Selah.
17 The wicked shall be turned into hell, and all the nations that forget God.
18 For the needy shall not always be forgotten: the expectation of the poor shall not perish for ever.
19 Arise, O Lord; let not man prevail: let the heathen be judged in thy sight.
20 Put them in fear, O Lord: that the nations may know themselves to be but men. Selah.

Psalms 7:11: -> GOD Judgeth the righteous, and GOD is angry with the wicked every Day. ->(Every or each millennium. By the way, we are living exactly in the turn from the sixth to the seventh and last Day, or seventh and last millennium. Be prepared, or else get ready->Matthew 25:10, take a look).

Psalms 149
->(combined with Daniel 7:22&26-27 and Revelation 11:15-18, take a look)
1 Praise ye the Lord. Sing unto the Lord a new song, and His praise in the congregation of saints.
2 Let Israel rejoice in Him that made him: let the children of Zion be joyful in their King.
3 Let them praise His name in the dance: let them sing praises unto Him with the timbrel and harp.
4 For the Lord taketh pleasure in His people:He will beautify the meek with salvation.->(Matthew 5:5, take a look)
5 Let the saints be joyful in glory: let them sing aloud upon their beds.
6 Let the high praises of GOD be in their MOUTH, and a two-edged Sword in their hand; ->(Hebrews 4:12-13)
7 To EXECUTE vengeance upon the heathen, and PUNISHMENTS upon the people; (Revelation 11:6 and verses 15 to 18, take a look).
8 To bind their kings with chains,and their nobles with fetters of iron;-> (Revelation 2:25 to 29, take a look)
9 To EXECUTE upon them the Judgment WRITTEN: this HONOUR have all his saints.-> (1Corinthians 6:2-3 combined with Daniel 2:44-47, among other biblical references). Praise ye the Lord. Amen.
 

37818

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@Oseas3,
Why? If His Name Michael means He is.
like God. Remember John 8:24.
Zachriah 3:2, And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, . . .
Jude 1:9, . . . Yet Michael the archangel, . . . said, The Lord rebuke thee.
Greek cross reference
LXX, Zachriah 3:2, . . . επιτιμησαι κυριος εν σοι . . .
Byz, Jude 1:9, . . . επιτιμησαι σοι κυριος . . .
 

JonC

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The idea that Michael was Christ pre-incarnate was popular in the 18th century. Ultimately there is not enough information to make that claim.
 

Oseas3

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Why? If His Name Michael means He is.
like God.
Yes, Revelation 11:4 says he is the God of the earth, this revelation confirms Isaiah 7:14-15: ->
14
Therefore the Lord himself shall give you a sign; Behold, a virgin shall conceive, and bear a son, and shall call his name Immanuel.->(God with us - Revelation 22:16-17 combined with John 15:26-27),
15 Butter and honey shall he eat, that he may know to refuse the evil, and choose the good. ->(This terrible condition of him here. even Michael revealed, saying:-> Revelation 1:18 "I am he that liveth, and was dead(was born in the world of Devil, under GOD's protection according prophecies about him, mainly prophecies of Isaiah, in parallel prophecies of JESUS birth too); and, behold, I am ALIVE for evermore(BECAUSE HE WAS CAUGHT UP BY THE FATHER->the dragon stood before the woman which was ready to be delivered, for to devour her child as soon as it was born.
And the woman brought forth a man child, who was to rule all nations with a rod of iron->Revelation 2:26-29) and her child was caught up unto GOD, and to his throne. , Amen; and have the keys of hell and of death.
Remember John 8:24.
Zachriah 3:2, And the LORD said unto Satan, The LORD rebuke thee, . . .
Jude 1:9, . . . Yet Michael the archangel, . . . said, The Lord rebuke thee.
It is intersting to remember JESUS is the Lord of the lords, and Michael is one of the lords. JESUS is the Lord of Michael: -> Revelation 1:1 and 22:16, take a look.

Zechariah 3:1-3

1 And He shewed me(prophet Zechariah) Joshua the high priest standing before the angel of the Lord(Michael), and Satan standing at his right hand to resist him.->(to resist Michael)

2 And the Lord said unto Satan, The Lord rebuke thee, O Satan; even the Lord that hath chosen Jerusalem rebuke thee: is not this a brand plucked out of the fire?

3 Now Joshua was clothed with filthy garments, and stood before the angel.-> Before Michael :-> 4 And he answered and spake unto those that stood before him, saying, Take away the filthy garments from him. And unto him he said, Behold, I have caused thine iniquity to pass from thee, and I will clothe thee with change of raiment.
5 And I said, Let them set a fair mitre upon his head. So they set a fair mitre upon his head, and clothed him with garments. And the angel of the Lord(Michael) stood by.
6 And the angel of the Lord(Michael) protested unto Joshua, saying, 7 Thus saith the Lord of hosts; If thou wilt walk in my ways, and if thou wilt keep my charge, then thou shalt also judge my house, and shalt also keep my courts, and I will give thee places to walk among these that stand by. 8 Hear now,O Joshua the high priest, thou, and thy fellows that sit before thee: for they are men wondered at: for, behold, I will bring forth my servant the Branch.

9 For behold the stone that I have laid before Joshua; upon one stone shall be seven eyes: behold, I will engrave the graving thereof, saith the Lord of hosts, and I will remove the iniquity of that land in one Day.
10 In that Day, saith the Lord of hosts, shall ye call every man his neighbour under the vine and under the fig tree.

I wish you a good Bible study.

DETAILS:
JESUS DIED AND RESURRECTED AFTER THREE DAYS, and is alive for ever;
MICHAEL was died until he become to refuse the evil, and choose the good. Butter and honey(Word of GOD) should he eat, until he may know to refuse the EVIL, and choose the good and be caught up unto GOD, and to his throne.-Revelatiopn 12:5 combined with Revelatiopn 2:26-27.
 
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