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are Altar calls even biblical?

Amy.G

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Well I disagree with your interpetion. If Im being fed, whats your problem with it.
I already explained what my "problem" is.

And unless you've got only a handful of people in your church, your pastor cannot teach all of the membership on a personal level.




I rely 1st on the Holy Spirit then a pastor who is also in the roll of teacher. I have learned more in that mode of operation then I ever did the other way. It involves every day study not just once a week at 930AM in a church.....with people who may or may not be completely knowledgeable or my have their own little agenda.
I study the Bible everyday, not just on Sundays. :rolleyes:

I attend a sound, Biblical church with good teachers. I'm sorry you've had such a negative experience.


Sorry, but thats what I believe & Im standing by it. Plus its also my spiritual responsibility to transfer that knowledge to my family (not an easy task I can tell you) ....but my wife understands.
Based on what I've read of your posts lately, you are not qualified to teach anyone. Your "knowledge" is sorely lacking.

While she wont go to churches around here....she approves of my integrating with the Old School Types & has even promised to go with me to a Old School church if we move to Florida.
I don't know what you mean by "old school".


Thats the rub.....I absolutely love these guys & believe in them, so if I move there I get a real home church....but if I stay in New Jersey I get crapo apostate or dead churches.....plus highest taxes in the country, high living expenses etc. Gods testing me, sure enough.
I doubt that you'll be happy there either. You want to follow your own way and disregard what God's word has to say on it. Nobody is going to meet your expectations.
 

Yeshua1

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I already explained what my "problem" is.

And unless you've got only a handful of people in your church, your pastor cannot teach all of the membership on a personal level.





I study the Bible everyday, not just on Sundays. :rolleyes:

I attend a sound, Biblical church with good teachers. I'm sorry you've had such a negative experience.



Based on what I've read of your posts lately, you are not qualified to teach anyone. Your "knowledge" is sorely lacking.


I don't know what you mean by "old school".



I doubt that you'll be happy there either. You want to follow your own way and disregard what God's word has to say on it. Nobody is going to meet your expectations.

have to understand that Old school baptists hold to informal pastors/teachers, as if someone feels led by god to do such, and the congregation approves it...

they also don't see any SS in bible, so would be JUST pastors teaching in a group setting, SS class taught by parents at home!
 

Iconoclast

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This commentary is probably more of an unloading than communicating......figures.

EWF,

Sorry..but i have to say this,even though you do not want me to.

You might be right about many things. Then you might have things that are not correct. Many of us have clashed over issues, ideas and opinions.

We should be able to work through differences.....even if we keep our differences. What I see is people [from each different backround}....trying to speak directly at you,and your posted thoughts.....with an overall view to help,not hurt you. The other day...Hos was joking and you reacted...he said ease up, he was joking.....Webdog and others said something. I said something , so you see me as a backstabber,etc.

If you are struggling with many issues you might not being seeing things as clear as you would at another time.....Think it out. Iron sharpens Iron if things are being conducted biblically, otherwise iron is used as weapon to attack, bite and devour one another.
This is taking place here....right now. You do not want that.No one here does. If i saw 20 other people saying what you are saying...then i would not say it this way......but I do not see anyone saying such things.
Let's try and and work through some of these areas in a more biblical fashion.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Based on what I've read of your posts lately, you are not qualified to teach anyone. Your "knowledge" is sorely lacking.

I did think better of you. I consider that comment a direct insult. No problem, will just adjust. :smilewinkgrin:

I doubt that you'll be happy there either. You want to follow your own way and disregard what God's word has to say on it. Nobody is going to meet your expectations.

You do know the old saying about opinions, dont you? :laugh:

Besides I really have found a faith I love ...so ....oh, never mind.:D
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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have to understand that Old school baptists hold to informal pastors/teachers, as if someone feels led by god to do such, and the congregation approves it...

they also don't see any SS in bible, so would be JUST pastors teaching in a group setting, SS class taught by parents at home!

Thank you brother!!! :thumbs:
 

Yeshua1

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Thank you brother!!! :thumbs:

this is what makes being baptist intresting and fin, as we have calvinists, free willers, PB, reformed/charasmatic etc...

At least we aren't catholic, and holding same required beliefs!
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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this is what makes being baptist intresting and fin, as we have calvinists, free willers, PB, reformed/charasmatic etc...

At least we aren't catholic, and holding same required beliefs!

YES.... & I know the way the catholics think & we are overrun with them....you want to talk easy believeism. :laugh: Say this prayer, "Oh my God I am heartily sorry---'Act of Contrition' & you get a free pass to heaven. Too bad I cant speak Spanish.....I can then integrate myself at the bodegas & amongst the fellas standing at the street corners waiting to get picked up. Gotta keep tryin. I dont see the Catliks active in puttin feet on the street. As a matter of fact, I dont see any churches doing it. Again, just wait for them to come in on Sunday or to the food pantries.Given enough time, I will change that dynamic.
 

Amy.G

New Member
I did think better of you. I consider that comment a direct insult. No problem, will just adjust. :smilewinkgrin:
Well, you've insulted quite a few bb members in the last week. They are friends of mine and I don't appreciate it.
 

Earth Wind and Fire

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Uh, does anybody remember what the OP topic is?

Yes, Same old song.... Are Alter Calls Biblical? :laugh:

But at risk of derailing again.....if you please, a prayer of thanks for Boston catching the Chechnya terrorists. Thanks Lord. Tremendous relief!
 
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RLBosley

Active Member
What the OT and NT say about modern invitations and altar calls:

^ Sad to say it took me a minute to get it. But so true :laugh::laugh:

are Altar calls even biblical?
No.
No in the sense that there is no precedent or command in scripture for them.
That however doesn't mean they are wrong per se... just not a good idea if you ask me.
 

Sminasian

Member
alter calls are not just for salvation, but a time and place where we can put our burdens at the foot of the cross. our church does alter calls for prayer, salvation with councelors, bapitism. or church membership. What I have a problem with is the sinners prayer. You got to be so careful because people will be reciting that prayer, believing they are " all set" with God and end up having a eternal life separated from the Lord, being placed in a lake of fire. NO NO and NO. There should never be a sinners prayer
 
alter calls are not just for salvation, but a time and place where we can put our burdens at the foot of the cross. our church does alter calls for prayer, salvation with councelors, bapitism. or church membership. What I have a problem with is the sinners prayer. You got to be so careful because people will be reciting that prayer, believing they are " all set" with God and end up having a eternal life separated from the Lord, being placed in a lake of fire. NO NO and NO. There should never be a sinners prayer

Where is the scriptural basis for this?
 
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