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[Revmitchell]

If you were capable of having this conversation,

Again you continue to display your inability to disagree with someone without a personal attack. This stems from immaturity. You are not capable of adult discussions.

 

[plain_n_simple]

Accusing someone of inability to read English? Really? C'mon man don't lower him to gain position okay?

 

[prophet]

The God who the King of Kings and Lord of Lords



Who has no beginning and no end.



Who is the standard for all that is right, true, and good



The special holy place of God



with those who have been born again and been pardoned by His grace.



God is waiting to give grace to those who are willing to repent. This is the context of this passage.

Ok, now you are responding properly, and we can discuss this.

By definition, "Eternity" is not influenced by time.

I'll take your definition, as it is relative to time, as well.
"Who has no beginning and no end".
This is sufficient to make the point.
Time has a beginning, it will have an end.

Rev 10:6
6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

Eternity is here, before Time began, and Eternity is here when time shall be no more.

Eternity is the ever-present.

Jn 8:58
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

See?, Time juxtaposed with Eternity?

God doesn't dwell in Time. He dwells in Eternity. He sees the beginning and end of time at once.

Rev 1:8
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

God sees all of Time now, in the ever present Eternity.

 

[Revmitchell]

Ok, now you are responding properly, and we can discuss this.

I see so you want me to do what you originally did not do. Is that what we are looking at here? I simply disagreed with your statement in the exact same way you made it.

 

[prophet]

I see so you want me to do what you originally did not do. Is that what we are looking at here?

I answered a post with Scripture.

You denied it, with no counter, no presentation of alternate ideas.

I responded with a goading conclusion.

You insisted on debate, but offered none.

Now that you have offered your side, WE can debate ideas, which was my intent all along.

I purposefully goaded you, to get you to respond with debate, and now you have. This is no unfamiliar debate tactic. I meant no harm. You have survived.

 

[prophet]

Ok, now you are responding properly, and we can discuss this.

By definition, "Eternity" is not influenced by time.

I'll take your definition, as it is relative to time, as well.
"Who has no beginning and no end".
This is sufficient to make the point.
Time has a beginning, it will have an end.

Rev 10:6
6 And sware by him that liveth for ever and ever, who created heaven, and the things that therein are, and the earth, and the things that therein are, and the sea, and the things which are therein, that there should be time no longer:

Eternity is here, before Time began, and Eternity is here when time shall be no more.

Eternity is the ever-present.

Jn 8:58
58 Jesus said unto them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Before Abraham was, I am.

See?, Time juxtaposed with Eternity?

God doesn't dwell in Time. He dwells in Eternity. He sees the beginning and end of time at once.

Rev 1:8
8 I am Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the ending, saith the Lord, which is, and which was, and which is to come, the Almighty.

God sees all of Time now, in the ever present Eternity.

Now back to this...

 

[plain_n_simple]

Can we spell manipulate? Carry on

 

[Revmitchell]

ion of alternate ideas.

I responded with a goading conclusion.

Ok well good luck with your misery. I will leave you to it.

 

[prophet]

Can we spell manipulate? Carry on

Is it because the points can't be refuted?

 

[prophet]

Ok well good luck with your misery. I will leave you to it.

Heading for Remedial Debate Forums?

 

[prophet]

Can we spell manipulate? Carry on

In effect, by saying: "does not" without offering a counter, Rev initiated the attacks.

He offered no explanation, leaving me to draw my own conclusion, which I did. I concluded that he was implying that I wasn't capable of comprehensive reading. He didn't say that, but he didn't say otherwise.

 

[plain_n_simple]

Is it because the points can't be refuted?

Yes. Your knowledge is deeper than mine. You are an awesome debater, a theologians theologian. A fearful anticipation of your responses overtakes me each time I await your Holy Spirit guided keystrokes.
Let me step out of the way

 

[prophet]

Yes. Your knowledge is deeper than mine. You are an awesome debater, a theologians theologian. A fearful anticipation of your responses overtakes me each time I await your Holy Spirit guided keystrokes.
Let me step out of the way

Glad you finally caught on.

Now, can we answer the posts with actual debate in them?

 

[Rippon]

Yes. Your knowledge is deeper than mine. You are an awesome debater, a theologians theologian. A fearful anticipation of your responses overtakes me each time I await your Holy Spirit guided keystrokes.
Let me step out of the way

I love it! That is funny.

 

[plain_n_simple]

Excuse me Rippon, can we have a little reverence here? Prophet is going to instruct

 

[thisnumbersdisconnected]

We don't have enough divisiveness and animosity on this board every day over this subject, we now gotta dig up three year old threads to heap on the scorn?

Sometimes I wonder ...

 

[Squire Robertsson]

This vampire (it was dead but rose up to devour) thread is closed.