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As evidence of campaign collusion with Russian hackers mounts, Donald Trump is falling apart

FollowTheWay

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Keep dreaming.
The problem is Hillary committed felonies. Had she not been so foolish, she would not have been hacked.
The scene in Full Metal Jacket where Pvt. Pyle left his footlocker unlocked and Sgt. Told him that it was people like him who made criminals ,describes this situation perfectly. I can't link it because it contains about 20 uses of profanity in two minutes, but for the not easily offended, there is you tube.
Russia hack of U.S. politics bigger than disclosed, includes Republicans

Russia Hack of U.S. Politics Bigger Than Disclosed, Includes GOP

In addition, the Bush administration used a private RNC email server which carried literally millions of emails during his term in office. These were subpoenaed by Congress but Bush/Cheney refused to comply with the subpoena. These would have covered far more important than Clinton's email including activity before and after 9/11 and before and during the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. They also would have shed light on the U.S. relationship with bin Laden, who worked for the CIA during the Russian-Afghanistan war as well as knowledge about the alleged "weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq.
 
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HankD

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Russia hack of U.S. politics bigger than disclosed, includes Republicans

Russia Hack of U.S. Politics Bigger Than Disclosed, Includes GOP

In addition, the Bush administration used a private RNC email server which carried literally millions of emails during his term in office. These were subpoenaed by Congress but Bush/Cheney refused to comply with the subpoena. These would have covered far more important than Clinton's email including activity before and after 9/11 and before and during the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq. They also would have shed light on the U.S. relationship with bin Laden, who worked for the CIA during the Russian-Afghanistan war as well as knowledge about the alleged "weapons of mass destruction" in Iraq.
U.S. authorities believe the hacking campaign originated with direct orders from the Kremlin and is an attempt to influence the presidential election and advance the broader strategic objectives of the Putin regime.
More Fake News from unnamed "U.S. Authorities" who "believe" (code word for "don't really know") Russian hacking.

After reading the article a scan found the word "believe" as it is used in the quote to be used repeatedly

In fact the whole piece is a fake news article in an attempt to divert the public's attention away from the crimes of the past administration.

My opinion of course.

HankD
 

Calminian

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How can any investigation stop Trump from accomplishing his agenda? The GOP controls all three branches of government.

Besides, Trump just tweeted yesterday that the press cannot keep him from accomplishing his goals (only he can do that!)

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False dilemma.

Besides, I would hope that any American would be interested in finding out if Russia interfered with our election.

Proves my point. Trump knows the purpose of the investigation is to prevent tax reform. He's telling you and the democrats you will not succeed.
 

InTheLight

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Proves my point. Trump knows the purpose of the investigation is to prevent tax reform. He's telling you and the democrats you will not succeed.

The only person that can let the Russian investigation affect tax reform is Trump himself. Most of the people being investigated are not in the administration any longer. And Trump himself has been cleared. This idea that Mueller's low key investigation is impeding Trump's agenda is a talking point from Hannity and Rush, I guess.
 

FollowTheWay

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The only person that can let the Russian investigation affect tax reform is Trump himself. Most of the people being investigated are not in the administration any longer. And Trump himself has been cleared. This idea that Mueller's low key investigation is impeding Trump's agenda is a talking point from Hannity and Rush, I guess.
Trump hasn't been cleared. There's at least a matter of obstruction of justice to be resolved.
 

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According to Comey and others, he was never under investigation to begin with. The left is chasing rainbows with this one - like this story, the guy claims he was followed a bunch on twitter because of his comments about the DNC hacks and then some now-deceased GOP operative named Smith contacted him because he had some guy tell him he recovered Hillary's emails on the deep web and he wanted this Matt to verify that they were really Hillary's emails. Matt didn't believe that Russia hacked Hillary's emails ever, but Smith did and didn't care and for some reason that appalled Matt?

Then, they go back and forth, finally Matt refuses to sign a non-disclosure agreement and Hillary's emails were never recovered in the long run so Smith couldn't use them against Hillary. Forget it, this is the guy's statement:

The Time I Got Recruited to Collude with the Russians

Now the problem is is that blog goes right back to Comey's leaker and this Brit sat on the subject for over ten months. Story is shaky in many respects IMO, as if Trump and them would ever make an LLC using their real names if it was this shady, and if they were in collusion with Russia, they would have never needed Matt at all.
 

HankD

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If you tell a lie often enough people will believe it.

Not anymore... Why?

The liberal press and fan club having a tantrum and crying WOLF! one time to many

HankD
 

carpro

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It would be hard to find an OP more full of lies and half truths than this one.

Consider the source.
 

church mouse guy

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Only a Democrat would charge obstruction of justice in a case where there was no investigation to begin with. The Democrats are like Cuban police who beat you up in a case of mistaken identity for no good reason but then charge you with resisting arrest even though you never said or did anything.
 

InTheLight

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But thankfully we have a president who's fighting back. That's some pretty vicious GnP if you ask me.

Coming soon. Tweet from Trump showing same video but with Kim Jong Un's face pasted on the wrestler instead of CNN's.

Sent from my Motorola Droid Turbo.
 

Crabtownboy

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If you tell a lie often enough people will believe it.

Not anymore... Why?

The liberal press and fan club having a tantrum and crying WOLF! one time to many

HankD


Also, if you tell the truth over and over few will believe you.
 

Yeshua1

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This weekend's blockbuster news came courtesy of the Wall Street Journal: A well-known Republican operative who asserted he was working for Trump campaign adviser Michael Flynn was actively seeking hacker help in obtaining private emails from Hillary Clinton's server, and intelligence agencies had intercepted discussions from Russian hackers at how to provide such help and transmit it back to Michael Flynn and his operatives.

This was immediately followed by a United Kingdom cybersecurity expert coming forward to confirm that he, personally, had been recruited by the operative, Peter Smith to help "validate" copies of "emails from Secretary Clinton's private server" that an unnamed source was offering to provide Smith.

This was not another data dump of documents from the DNC being disseminated through WikiLeaks; this was an effort to obtain information from Clinton's own email server, and came immediately on the heels of candidate Donald Trump publicly calling on Russian hackers to "find" those emails during what would be the last press conference of his entire campaign. Smith appeared to have a deep knowledge of internal campaign deliberations, Smith appeared to have a "reckless lack of interest" in whether or not he was working with the Russian's own hacking efforts, and the documents Smith provided to the expert outlining who would be managing the "research" included not just Flynn, but top campaign officials Steve Bannon and Kellyanne Conway.

This, then, would be the precise sort of "collusion" with foreign intelligence efforts that probes of the Trump campaign's association with Russian election hacks have been exploring. It links the campaign to hacking efforts through the one White House figure other than himself Donald Trump has gone to any effort to protect: Trump and associates had apparently contacted multiple top government officials in an effort to stop or delay the FBI investigation into Flynn before Trump made the sudden decision to fire the FBI director outright.


As evidence of campaign collusion with Russian hackers mounts, Donald Trump is falling apart
Again, fake news, no evidence backing up wild assertions....
 

FollowTheWay

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Again, fake news, no evidence backing up wild assertions....
Everything's a lie, right? There is no reality. I've been reading "1984" for the first time since college. here are Big brother's (Trump's) major statements:

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

In the novel. you can be watched through your TV set. This is now possible. President Bush declared endless war against the terrorists. Protesters exercising their 1st amendment rights are beaten up, killed or thrown into jail. Those suspected of 9/11 related crimes were never charged with a crime or given a trial. They're rotting in Guantanamo until they die so they can't tell the truth. There are no more facts only ratings (Kellyanne Conway). Trump is a Christian. The Russians are our friends and the UK and Germany are not. People don't really need healthcare. Taking away support from people in nursing homes (40% rely on Medicaid), people with disabilities, children, the poor is the moral thing to do so tax cuts can be given to the wealthy. America spends more on its military than the next 9 highest military spending countries in the world but we need to increase funding for the Pentagon.

This novel got it all right. It just got the year wrong.
 

HankD

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Everything's a lie, right? There is no reality. I've been reading "1984" for the first time since college. here are Big brother's (Trump's) major statements:

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

In the novel. you can be watched through your TV set. This is now possible. President Bush declared endless war against the terrorists. Protesters exercising their 1st amendment rights are beaten up, killed or thrown into jail. Those suspected of 9/11 related crimes were never charged with a crime or given a trial. They're rotting in Guantanamo until they die so they can't tell the truth. There are no more facts only ratings (Kellyanne Conway). Trump is a Christian. The Russians are our friends and the UK and Germany are not. People don't really need healthcare. Taking away support from people in nursing homes (40% rely on Medicaid), people with disabilities, children, the poor is the moral thing to do so tax cuts can be given to the wealthy. America spends more on its military than the next 9 highest military spending countries in the world but we need to increase funding for the Pentagon.

This novel got it all right. It just got the year wrong.

He one thing Orwell didn't include in 1984 is abortion because it was unthinkable, the most horrible on the scale of man's inhumanity to man.

But not for the progressive liberals.

Also euthanasia and eugenics have now become acceptable.

HankD
 

church mouse guy

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Everything's a lie, right? There is no reality. I've been reading "1984" for the first time since college. here are Big brother's (Trump's) major statements:

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

In the novel. you can be watched through your TV set. This is now possible. President Bush declared endless war against the terrorists. Protesters exercising their 1st amendment rights are beaten up, killed or thrown into jail. Those suspected of 9/11 related crimes were never charged with a crime or given a trial. They're rotting in Guantanamo until they die so they can't tell the truth. There are no more facts only ratings (Kellyanne Conway). Trump is a Christian. The Russians are our friends and the UK and Germany are not. People don't really need healthcare. Taking away support from people in nursing homes (40% rely on Medicaid), people with disabilities, children, the poor is the moral thing to do so tax cuts can be given to the wealthy. America spends more on its military than the next 9 highest military spending countries in the world but we need to increase funding for the Pentagon.

This novel got it all right. It just got the year wrong.

The American people are tired of the liberal talking points. No one believes war is peace, freedom is slavery, or ignorance is strength. We are in an endless war against terrorism unless we can somehow contain Islam, the source of modern terrorism worldwide. We have a legal system in place to protect human rights. The GOP has always said that Russia is an evil empire--it was Obama and the Democrats who laughed at Romney for saying that. It was Obama who moved Churchill's bust and who hated the UK and Trump who is seeking to re-establish our historic special relationship with the UK. Germany is a headache for not paying their fair share of their NATO bill while bullying Greece to do whatever Germany says. Of course people need healthcare in spite of what you say but they do not need Castrocare or Obamacare but free market care with regulation.

There is no attempt to scale back Medicaid but an attempt to stop the Obama expansion of Medicaid that was installed to bolster Obamacare, a horribly expensive program that levied fines for attempts to escape the high "taxes" of Obamacare. We do not need to soak the rich and install confiscatory taxes like some Latin American dictatorship. Obama left us with a hollow military and a navy smaller than during the Great Depression, so yes we do need military spending to protect ourselves and to make up for the slack left by our deadbeat European allies.
 

just-want-peace

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Everything's a lie, right? There is no reality. I've been reading "1984" for the first time since college. here are Big brother's (Trump's) major statements:

War is Peace
Freedom is Slavery
Ignorance is Strength

In the novel. you can be watched through your TV set. This is now possible. President Bush declared endless war against the terrorists. Protesters exercising their 1st amendment rights are beaten up, killed or thrown into jail. Those suspected of 9/11 related crimes were never charged with a crime or given a trial. They're rotting in Guantanamo until they die so they can't tell the truth. There are no more facts only ratings (Kellyanne Conway). Trump is a Christian. The Russians are our friends and the UK and Germany are not. People don't really need healthcare. Taking away support from people in nursing homes (40% rely on Medicaid), people with disabilities, children, the poor is the moral thing to do so tax cuts can be given to the wealthy. America spends more on its military than the next 9 highest military spending countries in the world but we need to increase funding for the Pentagon.

This novel got it all right. It just got the year wrong.

Sounds like the perfect description of the LIBERAL UTOPIA!! :Frown
 
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