Assorted Eschatological Teaching

[Dave G]

You are wrong. The kingdom is forever.

If he's wrong, then explain it to him patiently....using the Scriptures, Dave.

 

[Dave G]

Well, when you can convince me that John 5:28-29 and Matthew 25:31-46 have resurrections that are roughly 1,007 years apart…

I'm not here to convince you of anything, Willis, except the sufficiency of God's word alone on any given subject...
Not the sufficiency of commentaries + God's words.

To me, it's the same principle as "monergism" versus "synergism".

 

[1689Dave]

If he's wrong, then explain it to him patiently....using the Scriptures, Dave.

What if he doesn't like your style?

 

[SovereignGrace]

I agree.
But who runs the "academy"?

Who determines what the local body of believers teaches, and who they are composed of?

The Bible is what guides us, but God has given us these blessed ppl to teach us. Look at the book of Acts for instance. They studied it together. They went from house to house breaking bread(I think this was their way of expressing having meals together and not necessarily having communion daily, but I can’t help but think they had church daily).

 

[SovereignGrace]

I'm not here to convince you of anything, Willis, except the sufficiency of God's word alone on any given subject...
Not the sufficiency of commentaries + God's words.

To me, it's the same principle as "monergism" versus "synergism".

Well, sermons are forms of commentaries.

 

[1689Dave]

I never it said it wasn’t forever. I said it came down to man.

Calling it a millennium = it is 1000 years.

 

[SovereignGrace]

What if he doesn't like your style?

Try not taking jabs at me would be a good start.

 

[1689Dave]

Dave,
Respectfully, what I see is someone who sees what he has come to believe, and is arguing with those who don't see it the way that he does.

Should you not present God's word on the subect, and let the reader decide?

Aren't you Premillennial?

 

[1689Dave]

Try not taking jabs at me would be a good start.

What jabs?

 

[SovereignGrace]

Calling it a millennium = it is 1000 years.

Again, your view of amillennialism isn’t the majority view. I gave you a link, did you read it by chance?

 

[SovereignGrace]

What jabs?

I’m not convinced when I told you that I didn’t think Jesus taught a premillennial view.

 

[Dave G]

The Bible is what guides us, but God has given us these blessed ppl to teach us.

Be careful about teachers, my friend ( Matthew 7:15-20, 2 Peter 2, 1 John 4:1-6 ), they can be wrong...
Especially given that these are the last days.

 

[1689Dave]

Again, your view of amillennialism isn’t the majority view. I gave you a link, did you read it by chance?

Most teach an institutional church form that Jesus refuted in the gospels.

 

[SovereignGrace]

Be careful about teachers, my friend ( Matthew 7:15-20, 2 Peter 2, 1 John 4:1-6 ), they can be wrong...
Especially given that these are the last days.

I spit out quite a few bones around here, trust me.

 

[Dave G]

Aren't you Premillennial?

Yes, I am, and I'm not going to get into a debate with you over it.
Debating is not godly ( Romans 1:28-32 ) and is not a fruit of the Spirit ( Galatians 5:22-23 ), but rather a work of the flesh ( Galatians 5:19-21 ).

 

[SovereignGrace]

Most teach an institutional church form that Jesus refuted in the gospels.

Institutional church? Please clarify what you mean here. TIA

 

[1689Dave]

I’m not convinced when I told you that I didn’t think Jesus taught a premillennial view.

If you call the kingdom a millennium, you're in Pharisee territory.

 

[SovereignGrace]

If you call the kingdom a millennium, you're in Pharisee territory.

And if you teach amillennialism then you’re in RCC or Greek Orthodox territory. It cuts both ways.

 

[1689Dave]

Institutional church? Please clarify what you mean here. TIA

Denominations. Brick and mortar institutions. Unscriptural monarchial bishops.....

 

[1689Dave]

And if you teach amillennialism then you’re in RCC or Greek Orthodox territory. It cuts both ways.

Jesus taught Amillennialism. But only the born-again can see the kingdom he preached.