SaggyWoman and all, I'm so sorry to be hijacking this thread yet again.
You know, CC, it's insulting to me that you didn't take up for me when I was insulted. You have a double standard. You're not fair.
Why is that?
You were called a troll because your posts are troll-like. Perhaps you didn't read the definition of the word "troll" that I posted for you. Maybe I should help you by pointing out where you sound like a troll.
Here's an early post of yours in this thread.
"Certainly" not correct?
On both of these points there is a great deal of disagreement, even if you consider only the opinions of KJV critics. (In fact, if you study these critics, you'll find that the only thing they agree about is their disapproval of the KJV).
In light of the vast range of disagreement among all the scholars, the way to show "Easter" and "all evil" are "certainly not correct" is to show an alternative that certainly is.
The bolding of yours is to emphasise the word and it displays an angry tone. Maybe you don't post on message boards much, but the angry tone that I hear in your post is troll-like.
I don't know what FTR means, but whatever.
Whatever? Really? Would you allow your kids to say "whatever" to you and dismiss you like that? Probably not and yet you don't have any problem doing it here.
You know, folks, I asked for some certainty, and this all I get? "Try Passover?" Not exactly a geyser of persuasive evidence but, like I said, whatever. Hey, anything goes in evolution and bible whateverism.
You asked for something and you were given something, but apparently, it needed to be given to you on a silver platter and you were unwilling to look it up, so you just dismissed it again. Then you insulted your Christian brothers with your "bible whateverism" comment. Again, that's troll-like. And you continue.
Of course, if all one does is look for critics of the "Easter" translation, that might be all one finds. Don't get me wrong -- I do understand that can be much more comfortable than facing the facts.
More insults. There are educated people on this board that have done the research that you imply they haven't. Troll-like.
BTW, For The Record, DHK answered the "passover" question for you in post #51.
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
"....focus on the actual words ...." oh, horrors! oh, save me! No! we can't focus on the actual words.
No! We must focus on the virtual words. The ones that are imagined, or guessed at, or maybe just the ones that a majority of skeptics think maybe mighta been more likely.
But no! Surely not the words that were in fact the actual words of God!
ach! le gaspe!
If this post isn't condescension, I don't know what is. Condescending = troll-like
Here's another insulting post, pretending that everybody here is some child that you need to correct.
Seriously now. No kidding, you people who scratch your heads over this, I'm going to demonstrate to you right now why the KJB has a loyal following.
OK? Are you ready? Here we go:
You antiKJV-only people tell me this -- since according to you "every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God" is not found in the KJV, where on this earth today can I find them, since according to Jesus Christ, God himself, I must live by them? Give me the book in my hands that contains "every word that proceedeth out of the mouth of God."
Here's an insult about the education that people like Rippon and TCGreek and others have. Insults are most unbecoming of Christians and are decidedly troll-like.
Another reason KJV-only people have a following is that they are not great big linguistic wimps.
And you continue to insult people.
Guess what. No really, don't hold your breath -- we had to learn the earlier French! Yes, it was different. But even at the age of 12 and 13 years we were smart enough to learn the early French stuff, and recite it, and even write it. Le gaspe!
You people who complain about how difficult it is to understand the early-modern English of the KJV -- it's just really pathetic.
Then, you follow it up by calling everybody here an idiot.
I'm glad to do what I can to help, but yikes, I do need some material to work with, you know?
Some material? What's Christ-like about that phrase?
You go and insult Bitsy, who hadn't said anything near a cross word to you. I have to say that I wish I had seen that post earlier, because I would have stepped up to defend her as much as I did Filmproducer.
Here's your insult.
Wow, hey, that makes you someone who has led a really sheltered life. Dude, that is totally amazing!
In fact, that makes you a part of a totally alternate universe, dudette, cuz I can find people on these boards who have sed some purty vile things about the KJV! Isn't that just freaky??
Like, I just read stuff just today in this very thread(!!!) talking about how the KJV had actually mistranslated the words of God! That's purty bad, doncha think????
Gimme a break.
And yet more insults from you.
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Hey, I tried to laugh with you, OK?
To critique the KJV is not to be antiKJV. So you're not anti. You're not against it. You're not saying it's wrong.
If you're not anti KJV, you're pro KJV. Can't be both.
You're not against the KJV, you're for it. Can't be both.
You're not saying it's wrong, so it's right. Can't be both.
So you're obviously not one of the persons I addressed, for I was addressing "antiKJV" folk, and you're not anti, so you're obviously "for."
(Anyone who is against what the KJV says is..... em...... anti KJV.)
Wow, this is a long post.
Here's another one from you.
Now that's one big pile of dung, ain't it? I've spend a great deal of time discussing these matters sincerely, and this chap calls me a troll.
Sincerely? You call insulting people a sincere discussion? Throwing insult after insult is a sincere discussion? Besides, the people who you're insulting have been far more gracious to you than you've been. They've provided evidence and have asked pertinent questions of you, but you've completely ignored them and insisted that your questions alone must be answered.
This does highlight one of the major issues that the KJVO crowd can't seem to get a grasp on. When they holler and shout and insult people while making their arguments, they kill their own arguments. You'll self-righteously call it "contending for the faith", but I submit to you that nobody is going to listen to an argument that starts with the words "You idiot."
You know, CC, it's insulting to me that you didn't take up for me when I was insulted. You have a double standard. You're not fair.
Why is that?
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Not fair? You talk like a troll and then boo-hoo to me when I don't defend you because you're acting like what Filmproducer said you were? :laugh:
I think I've adequately shown that you're a troll. Filmproducer doesn't need me to defend her, but she's a friend and I defend my friends when they're attacked. Bitsy is quite capable as well, but she's also a friend and I only wish I had seen your insult earlier so I could have taken up a defense for her. Feel free to deduce that you are not my friend.
so they call me a troll instead.
Don't act like a troll and you won't be called a troll.
<whisper>(Just in case no one has noticed,
<whisper>(Just in case you haven't noticed, you haven't answered any of the questions that have been asked of you, but continue to demand that your questions be answered.)
Finally, would you kindly explain which verse of the Bible gives you permission to insult people?
