Babies destroyed for science

[windcatcher]

The dirty little secret to all of this is, when they start to discover remedies (if any are discovered) there will have to be a stem cell bank established much like that of a blood bank to be ready to respond in emergencies for what ever cure a specific embryonic stem cell might cure. Now just imagine the cost and then the gathering of embryos that will be needed. We will be paying for embryo donors just as we pay for blood donors. :tear:

What a "brave new world" in which we live. Sad just sad!!! :BangHead:

As horrible as it is to think about..... science is so overly esteemed that, without conscience or restraint, there probably is already sufficient knowledge to just harvest the generative organs of organ donors and culture in a lab to produce the ova and germative seed to produce fertilized eggs and grow stem cell at will.

I don't think there was any mistake that the tree in the garden which fruit was to be avoided....... was the tree of knowledge, of good and evil. Not all knowledge is good. Not all desire for knowledge springs from good intentions. By the time sordid purposes are discovered, it is often too late to turn back from the evil produced. An example is the Atomic Bomb. We now have nuclear energy.... and it is the cheapest (or one of the cheapest) forms of electricity production, but there are more nuclear weapons in existance than plants to produce cheap electricity.

 

[OldRegular]

Originally Posted by OldRegular
But he is going to use your tax money anyway just as he is in foreign countries to support the murder of the unborn.

As far as I am concerned an abortionist is worse than Hitler or Stalin or Mao or Pol Pot. At least most of the people murdered by these men had an opportunity to resist. Unborn children can't, though there are ultrasounds showing babies trying to avoid their murderer's knife.

Response by JC
YOU support the murder of the unborn if you support test tube babies.

JC
Don't let your fingers get ahead of your brain. What gave you the idea I supported test tube babies? I support adoption not abortion as you do.

Now you answer the question others have asked: Do you support test tube babies?

 

[targus]

Tnanx, man. It does sound Frankenstienish.

Need to add...

If eight are implanted and four survive usually two or three are aborted.

Everybody is upset about the octamom with her kids but she just decided to have all of the survivors rather than aborting most of them.

 

[Don]

Asked this back on page 1, in response to something Just Christian posted. 3 pages later, no answer.

Now we've hit page 5, with no answer. Guess he doesn't have one. Which is an implied admission that he was wrong.

 

[chuck2336]

Now we've hit page 5, with no answer. Guess he doesn't have one. Which is an implied admission that he was wrong.

Somone who voted for obamanation admits they were wrong? I dont see it happening. As we have seen they will get banned first!

:tongue3:

 

[JustChristian]

Still waiting for your answer.

JustChristian, do you oppose the creation of test tube babies?

Third time asking...

Why isn't that obvious from my posts? Yes I oppose in vietro fertilization. However, if there are frozen embryos that have been produced by this ungodly process, I support using them to aid in finding new cures for diseases rather than being discarded (murdered).

 

[LadyEagle]

I support using them to aid in finding new cures for diseases rather than being discarded (murdered).

Either way, they are murdered. :tear:

 

[JustChristian]

BALONEY!!

From the CNN report-

Researchers highly value embryonic stem cells because of their potential to turn into any organ or tissue cell in the body. Stem cells have this ability for a short time. A few days before the embryo would implant in the uterus, it starts to develop into specific cells that will turn into skin or eyes or other parts of a developing fetus.


When the embryo is 4 or 5 days old, scientists extract the stem cells and put them in a petri dish. With the removal of these stem cells -- of which there may be about 30 -- the embryo is destroyed.


If you believe that life begins at conception you cannot deny that this is anything but outright MURDER.

These embryos are already condemned to death. They will be put in a frozen state for a period of time and then discarded that is murdered. It's better for them to give their live to create cures for diseases than to die in vain.

 

[JustChristian]

Either way, they are murdered. :tear:

True but who are the culprits? The murderers are the couples who engage in In Vietro Fertilization.

 

[tinytim]

True... but the principle of murdering to harvest body parts is what is bothersome.

It is a principle that should never been suggested.

 

[tinytim]

Either way, they are murdered. :tear:

That's what JC is saying..

The real problem was when couples tried to play God in producing life in a test tube...

That lead to this problem now.

 

[Don]

6 pages, and several responses to others. Man, am I being ignored, or what?

 

[monk]

6 pages, and several responses to others. Man, am I being ignored, or what?

You may be a little too concerned with this person.

 

[JustChristian]

JC
Don't let your fingers get ahead of your brain. What gave you the idea I supported test tube babies? I support adoption not abortion as you do.

Now you answer the question others have asked: Do you support test tube babies?

I've never said I supported abortion. You're just making these things up.

 

[tinytim]

6 pages, and several responses to others. Man, am I being ignored, or what?

Did you say something?

Musta missed it... :love2: :laugh:

 

[Dragoon68]

This law signed by Obama does not increase the number of adult cell embryos obtained (read abortion). It increases the use of existing adult stem cell lines. It doesn't support the murder of unborn children but rather the use of what we have to save life through scientific research. The activity done to accomplish this is no different than the activity funded by the Bush administration. If you consider this to involve murder of the unborn then the Bush administration was just as guilty.

How can you say this? I've read the article three times, trying to figure out how you came to this conclusion; instead, I see the article explaining that extracting the cells destroys the embryo, necessarily leading to the conclusion that more embryos will be needed; and two senators who state that "we shouldn't have to create life in order to enhance life" and that we can do the same research without the destruction of living human embryos.

So how did you reach a conclusion that's completely opposite of the conclusions drawn in the article?

Don asked a very good question!

 

[SeekingTruth]

A vote for Obama is a vote for abortion. An appeal for the success of the Obama administration is an appeal for the success of his abortion program, which he passionately supports, else why so much action to further this crime when he should be concentrating on the real problems facing this nation. (And it doesn't matter who caused the problem, they are now his to solve.)

 

[sag38]

Two wrongs don't make a right. Dicarding them is wrong. Using them for scientific research is wrong. Both are murder no matter which route you take and cannot be justified. What did we in the United States expect when we elected an abortionist?

 

[JustChristian]

Two wrongs don't make a right. Dicarding them is wrong. Using them for scientific research is wrong. Both are murder no matter which route you take and cannot be justified. What did we in the United States expect when we elected an abortionist?

My belief is that this isn't true. If a couple decides to murder embryos by getting involved in In Vietro Fertilization that has already been done. These embryos are going to be "discarded." Why not use them for life saving research instead of the trash can?

 

[Revmitchell]

My belief is that this isn't true. If a couple decides to murder embryos by getting involved in In Vietro Fertilization that has already been done. These embryos are going to be "discarded." Why not use them for life saving research instead of the trash can?

Because what ever happened we should not participate in this destruction of life.