Babylon The Great Is A Murderous, Presumptuous Regime With A Global Reach

[Zog Has-fallen]

John 3:19-21
And this is the judgment: the light has come into the world, and people loved the darkness rather than the light because their works were evil. For everyone who does wicked things hates the light and does not come to the light, lest his works should be exposed. But whoever does what is true comes to the light, so that it may be clearly seen that his works have been carried out in God.

 

[Covenanter]

It is wrong to classify Seventh-day Millerites as Evangelicals and probably hurts their feelings. Latin America has several pure socialistic states that you can defect to. Bring your own toilet paper.

THe problem the socialist states suffer is the US trade sanctions imposed on them to try to ensure socialism is not viable. Britain was able to develop a true, people-centred socialism after WW2 that was destroyed in the 80s by a conservative government using cheap imports to destroy the country's manufacturing base & so destroy the trade unions.

We remember the gains made in the 40s to 70s & want a return to government for the people rather than the rich & the rich corporations.

 

[church mouse guy]

THe problem the socialist states suffer is the US trade sanctions imposed on them to try to ensure socialism is not viable. Britain was able to develop a true, people-centred socialism after WW2 that was destroyed in the 80s by a conservative government using cheap imports to destroy the country's manufacturing base & so destroy the trade unions.

We remember the gains made in the 40s to 70s & want a return to government for the people rather than the rich & the rich corporations.

I don't know of any sanctions that we have on anyone. In the case of Cuba, they are on a cash and carry basis because they stopped paying their debts in 1959. Venezuela is richer in oil than the Saudis but Chavez and Maduro looted the treasury. What sanctions are you talking about?

The UK has bad leadership and no money. What happened to your auto industry? You have too many refugees just looking for a handout. Germany wants to be the boss of the world still and they have lots of money. When Germany rearms, they will dominate the continent again.

Canada has a socialistic state, but they are unable to provide quality healthcare so they are like the UK in that respect.

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

THe problem the socialist states suffer is the US trade sanctions imposed on them to try to ensure socialism is not viable.

Precisely. Unfortunately though, Christian churches are infested with deep state shills that are incapable of acknowledging official church state propaganda, such as Trump Slaps De-Facto Oil Ban on Venezuela.

 

[church mouse guy]

Precisely. Unfortunately though, Christian churches are infested with deep state shills that are incapable of acknowledging official church state propaganda, such as Trump Slaps De-Facto Oil Ban on Venezuela.

What law says that we have to buy oil from anyone when we are self-sufficient?

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

We remember the gains made in the 40s to 70s & want a return to government for the people rather than the rich & the rich corporations.

What is just, right and best for all people and our planet isn't going to happen. The world is going to end while we all debate
The Three Angels’ Messages Versus The Three Demons’ Messages

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

I will ask you again to tell us exactly who it is that you are talking about by naming names and citing quotations.

I prefer that you allow my sources to name names and to cite unquestionably relevant quotations. Assuming that you really want the best answers, you only need to listen to them and exercise discernment.

"Make Venezuela White Again"

 

[church mouse guy]

I prefer that you allow my sources to name names and to cite unquestionably relevant quotations. Assuming that you really want the best answers, you only need to listen to them and exercise discernment.

"Make Venezuela White Again"

This stuff about Venezuela is nuts and reflects badly on Seventh-day Millerites.

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

This stuff about Venezuela is nuts and reflects badly on Seventh-day Millerites.

MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH calls its opposers nuts. No surprises there. And I suppose that means that there will never be a detailed, logical rebuttal that everyone will be encouraged to examine and compared to the actual charges. Again, I'm not surprised.

 

[church mouse guy]

MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH calls its opposers nuts. No surprises there. And I suppose that means that there will never be a detailed, logical rebuttal that everyone will be encouraged to examine and compared to the actual charges. Again, I'm not surprised.

I don't believe what you say that I believe so you are making false accusations. In fact no one says what you say people say.

 

[robycop3]

I don't know of any sanctions that we have on anyone. In the case of Cuba, they are on a cash and carry basis because they stopped paying their debts in 1959. Venezuela is richer in oil than the Saudis but Chavez and Maduro looted the treasury. What sanctions are you talking about?

The UK has bad leadership and no money. What happened to your auto industry? You have too many refugees just looking for a handout. Germany wants to be the boss of the world still and they have lots of money. When Germany rearms, they will dominate the continent again.

Canada has a socialistic state, but they are unable to provide quality healthcare so they are like the UK in that respect.

Most of Western Europe has gone New-Age-Liberal, supporting LBGTQ, easy welfare, huge taxes, etc. And Germany is in the thick of it, according to many US servicemen who were recently deployed there. In other words, Germany doesn't have the testosterone to be aggressive now.

 

[RighteousnessTemperance&]

MYSTERY, BABYLON THE GREAT, THE MOTHER OF HARLOTS AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH calls its opposers nuts. No surprises there. And I suppose that means that there will never be a detailed, logical rebuttal that everyone will be encouraged to examine and compared to the actual charges. Again, I'm not surprised.

Have you posted any links to the Christian Zionists for people to read? Do you have any such links?

Would you say that the website www.christianzionism.org (and see specific links below), which opposes Christian Zionism, represents your basic position regarding Christian Zionism's history and the situation in Israel with the Palestinians?

Christian Zionism — ChristianZionism.org
Politics — ChristianZionism.org

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

Would you say that the website www.christianzionism.org (and see specific links below), which opposes Christian Zionism, represents your basic position regarding Christian Zionism's history and the situation in Israel with the Palestinians?

Christian Zionism — ChristianZionism.org
Politics — ChristianZionism.org

I am on record recommending The General’s Son, Journey of an Israeli in Palestine, Second Edition, by Miko Peled. I also happily endorse the writings of Stephen Sizer on Christian Zionism.

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

There are debates regarding Christian Zionism's history and the situation in Israel with the Palestinians. Some are laughably bad.

In the famous debate between Norman Finkelstein and Alan Dershowitz, there is no question that Finkelstein decimated Dershowitz.

Here are some highlights with comical commentary:

 

[church mouse guy]

There are debates regarding Christian Zionism's history and the situation in Israel with the Palestinians. Some are laughably bad.

In the famous debate between Norman Finkelstein and Alan Dershowitz, there is no question that Finkelstein decimated Dershowitz.

Here are some highlights with comical commentary:

Finkelstein couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag against Alan Dershowitz, the leading professor at Harvard Law School before his retirement and considered the finest lawyer in the USA. As Dershowitz says, he was at the UN during the debate over the resolution and Finkelstein does not support the same sort of two state solution that calls for recognition of the Israeli state, etc.

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

Finkelstein couldn't fight his way out of a wet paper bag against Alan Dershowitz

Even my former Yeshiva students that saw the debate agreed that Dershowitz lost miserably.

 

[church mouse guy]

Even my former Yeshiva students that saw the debate agreed that Dershowitz lost miserably.

Dershowitz never lost a debate in his life. Dershowitz was a participant in the event and an eyewitness. Finkelstein makes a federal case because of an error about a Brit's name. Finkelstein does not support a two-state solution that recognizes Israel, which Dershowitz quietly pointed out.

 

[Zog Has-fallen]

Alan Dershowitz, the leading professor at Harvard Law School before his retirement and considered the finest lawyer in the USA.

Yes, it's quite an achievement to be so good at lawyering that can you get famous murderers off on an acquittal.

 

[Squire Robertsson]

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[Zog Has-fallen]

Dershowitz never lost a debate in his life.

Alan Dershowitz not only lost to Norman Finkelstein, but Dershowitz also failed in his evil intentions to stop Finkelstein from publishing a book about Dershowitz being an enemy of civil liberties and an apologist for Zionist atrocities.

Chomsky on Dershowitz' jihad against Finkelstein (Part 1 & 2)