Baptism before 18 yrs. old

[FollowMeHome]

You've come out of a religion of false teachings. You need to give these up for the truth of scripture. If your 'old' beleifs are not scriptural your beliving a lie. Satan is the father of lies, it is the enemy you are believing, not God.
Blessed water is still just water, plain tap water, nothing special about it, no powers to remove sin. The power is in the blood of Jesus, alone, to remove and forgive sin.
You need to start studying the bible asking God to help you see and understand, believe His truths and to help you get rid of old false beleifs.
Just to let you know, I grew up RCC. I considered what it was going to mean before I was saved to those beliefs, and was willing to give it all up for Jesus. (whats strange is that my mom was into new age too, so a lot of what I was taught to beleive wasn't even RCC, but new age metaphysical mumbo jumbo). As I read the bible I began to see things contrary to what I was taught, and through the indwelling Holy Spirit began to give up the false for the truth.

Donna,

That's your opinion and I'll take it as that.

 

[FollowMeHome]

Mar 1:9 In those days Jesus came from Nazareth of Galilee and was baptized by John in the Jordan.
Mar 1:10 And when he came up out of the water, immediately he saw the heavens opening and the Spirit descending on him like a dove. (ESV)

Do you not believe that Jesus was God in the form of a person?

 

[BD17]

There's the questions.
When.
Who.

As an infant. And by my pastor.

 

[donnA]

Donna,

That's your opinion and I'll take it as that.

Your not really looking to learn about your new baptist faith are you, for the purpose of correcting the false you've learned from the rcc. if you do not want to know and beleive the truth of scripture and want to stay with rcc false teachings, then why are you a baptist?

 

[donnA]

consistancy? what you won't find is consistancy in the rcc compared to scripture.

 

[Bro Tony]

With at least two people proclaiming their infant baptism in this thread I was wondering if this is still a Baptist only section. I know of no Baptist that would baptize an infant----as a matter of fact to do so would negate their claim of being Baptist.

Bro Tony

 

[BD17]

With at least two people proclaiming their infant baptism in this thread I was wondering if this is still a Baptist only section. I know of no Baptist that would baptize an infant----as a matter of fact to do so would negate their claim of being Baptist.

Bro Tony

Never said I was Baptist.

 

[Bro Tony]

Never said I was Baptist.

Then you shouldn't be posting in a Baptist only section.

Bro Tony

 

[canadyjd]

Gina L.

I have not allowed my children to be Baptized. My son made a "profession of faith" at age 8. He will be 15 next month. My daughter will be nine soon. She made a "profession of faith" 3 years ago. They have never, to my satisfaction, displayed an understanding of what it means to walk in a manner worthy of a profession of faith in Jesus Christ.

It is not a matter of "understanding" what certain words mean. It is not about saying a certain prayer. Children are easily manipulated into doing and saying whatever their parents, teachers or friends want them to do or say. Salvation is about a transformed life.

Their salvation does not depend of their baptism, or lack thereof. If their professions of faith are genuine, I expect the Holy Spirit to lead them into a realization of a transformed life. If not, I don't want to put stumbling blocks in their paths that could be used by Satan to convince them they are saved when they aren't.

peace to youraise:

 

[Brother Bob]

Good for you Candy;

 

[donnA]

Never said I was Baptist.

if you aren't baptist you are posting in the worng forum.

 

[gekko]

i was baptized 4 years ago now. when i understood what baptizm was. and when i had a surface knowledge (i call it surface knowledge now because it is compared to now) of being a christian. yeah i was a christian when i was baptized.
an amazing experience i tell ya.

but to stop your kid from getting baptized if they're younger then 18? i dont know... bells goin off there...

 

[Hope of Glory]

Good for you, Candy.

 

[FollowMeHome]

consistancy? what you won't find is consistancy in the rcc compared to scripture.

Where did you get all of your divine knowledge of the Catholic church?

 

[canadyjd]

Followmehome

Welcome. It seems you have stepped into a buzzsaw here. You stated earlier you were confused about some of the Baptist Beliefs, so maybe I can give you a quick overview.

1. Baptist were called "baptists" because they insisted on believer's baptism as the only biblical, and therefore proper, baptism for a Christian. This meant the person must be able to understand, repent, and turn to Christ in belief and faith for true salvation. Infants are, therefore, not considered candidates for baptism in most baptist congregations.

2. Baptist generally believe that baptism is the first step of obedience for a new Christian. It is a symbol of their own death, burial and resurrection of a new man, into their Lord and Savior. As a symbol, it does not actually remove any sin, nor does it save you. Some may argue you receive the Holy Spirit at baptism, but most believe the Holy Spirit already indwells the new believer.

3. Baptism has traditionally been considered an ordinance for membership into the Church. Therefore, new members are usually baptized, or they transfer a "letter" from a church of "like faith and practice", or they give a testimony concerning their own salvation and baptism.

It grieves me that some people "jumped" on your posts, and questioned whether you were actually a baptist or not, saved or not, and so on.

I hope that this experience will not discourage you in your new church, nor from posting on this forum.

peace to youraise:

 

[ituttut]

How many of you have allowed your child to be baptized?

Me. My son before the age of 10, but for medical reasons my daughter (younger than my son) could not do so for a year or so. She is in her 50's today and still has not been baptized. I was very happy my son was baptized, and that my daughter has not seen fit to do so. The decision of one's soul is a one-on-one situation, and we fall or rise on what is in our heart, not what denomination we belong to, or whether we have been "water baptized".

How many have not?

So far, my children remain dry believers. I've thought about it recently, and am not sure if I'm doing them a favor or not!

Believers have blood all over them. I know you use "dry believers" for clarity, but no believer is born "dry". "And such were some of you: BUT YE ARE WASHED, but ye are sentenced, but ye are justified, in the name of the Lord Jesus, and BY THE SPIRIT OF OUR GOD", I Corinthians 6:11.

Are they old enough to understand it all? I know they understand to the best of their ability. I know that at their age I was just beginning to struggle with trying to find my own ground, my own beliefs, rather than what people pushed at me. It ended up with a total rejection of Christ...

What's to understand. The everlasting gospel is to fear God. What will take that fear away. Believe on the Lord Jesus Christ and it is a done deal. If your children made their own decision to trust the Lord Jesus Christ for their salvation, they have already been baptized.

after I thought I believed, and after I was baptized.It's part of why I figured I was lost for good. I had been taught that the only way to lose your salvation was through suicide or through rejecting Christ after you already "accepted him".

So, I figured that I'd not push it with my kids, but wait until they are adults and fully capable of deciding whether they will or won't do it, apart from mamma.

What do you think? Right? Wrong?

You are right.

You have taught them to believe on the Lord Jesus Christ, and it is up to them to work out their own salvation.

While we're at it, let's throw in the question of why may baptize. I always thought it would be special to be baptized by someone with a vested interest in the other person. A husband baptizing a wife, or a father baptizing his child, or a grandfather baptizing his grandchild. I've never gotten why people say "it's gotta be the preacher man of the local church that you joined."

We today have no scriptural guidance in this matter.[quote]

There's the questions.
When.
Who.

When: Should be left to the individual.

Who: Prerogative of the particular church, or denomination.

 

[Bob Farnaby]

I have 4 sons who are christians, they were baptised at various ages between 9 and 17. Each made the decision himself, it included talking with myself, my wife, the church pastor. So, as for age, it was as each was convicted that it was the thing to do in obediance to God.

Each was baptised by the church pastor, again their choice. I belive the bible teaches baptism of belivers by immersion, who does the baptising is to a large extent irrelavent. There is a convenience and respect in the pastor or church elders doing it, but in reality as a beliver in the priesthood of all belivers.. well any priest will do....

Regards
Bob

 

[ituttut]

FollowMe,

Your profile states that you are a Baptist believer. Do you attend a Baptist Church that practices infant baptism? Does your church teach that baptistm "cleanses a person of original sin"? Does your church teach that once you baptize an infant they are then Christian?

These belief's in your post are neither baptistic or biblical. Ritual or water baptism neither cleanses of sin or makes one a Christian. If you enter the water lost in your sin, you will come out of the water lost in your sin but just wet.

Bro Tony, he believes the "great commission".

 

[ituttut]

And your scripture for that is....?
Your profile says you are baptist, but your beliefs are not baptist in any way. In scripture baptism is for believers, those who have already believed, an infant can not and has not believed, and is not a christian just because they got wet. The blood of Jesus cleanses us from sin, water does not. If water cleansed us from sin no would be have to become a christian, just take a bath. Nope, it isn't water, it's Jesus and Jesus alone.
To me it is incomprehensable for a christian saying their child can choose whatever religion they want too, and not raise them to believe in Christianity, to believe Jesus is the only way of salvation. But then, if one is a christian because they are baptized, then Jesus isn't the only way is He.

Amen! Acts 16 over Acts 2.

 

[bobbyd]

I had the awesome honor of baptizing my daughter about a year and half back when she was 7.
Although we discussed salvation and what it meant to be a Christian often before she professed Christ as her Lord and Savior...i didn't go into great details that would lead to a commitment until she understood in own sinfunless and the need for a Savior; from there baptism was just a step of obedience.
So personally, i see no need to not baptize young people.

At the same time, in most baptist churches baptism means automatic membership (whether the candidate realizes it or not), the downfall of the situation is that you have kids as young as 4 or 5 in some cases who are authorized to "vote" in church matters.
So, i can see a reason for delaying baptism for that reason...but it's still not a good enough reason to avoid a Biblical mandate.