Believeth
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Would you care to explain how Rom 9:11 fits God foreknowing who will trust and those that will reject Him?
In context, Romans 9 is a continuation of Romans 8, and the nature of God's foreknowledge is defined by those whom He has predestined to salvation.
Romans 8:28-30
And we know that all things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose. For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren. Moreover whom he did predestinate, them he also called: and whom he called, them he also justified: and whom he justified, them he also glorified.
It is showing Gods choice of Jacob over Esau as the line Christ would come through.
While it's true that Christ came from the line of Jacob, that's not the context of the argument Paul is making. If you believe it is, please point me to the verse that says so.
But according to your calvinism God has determined what man's nature would be so man is only doing just what God has determined for him to do.
God created man good and upright; however, that doesn't mean that He created man incorruptible. Man became corrupted by their own free choosing, which is exactly what happened in the garden. As a consequence, all of humanity has fallen in Adam. If God decides to withhold His mercy from the lost, He has the right to determine certain sins that the reprobate would have no problem freely committing on their own, which will ultimately be for the greater good. Is God unjust for doing things that way?
Calvinists cannot seem to understand their own philosophy. Or perhaps you just ignore the reality of your view.
I'm not a Calvinist; I'm a Biblicist. I'm just a mere mortal man, and all I can do is present to you the reality of Scripture. If you cannot, or rather will not, submit to the Word of God, then there's nothing I can say to change that if your mind is made up.
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